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Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by Anechoic on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @11:42AM (#2276086)
He's not mentioned in the article, but Dylan Bruno from Numb3rs is an MIT grad (we both played on the football team) and, coincidentally, acted in a movie opposite Ms. Portman :)

Woodie Flowers always used to say that we need an "LA Engineer" (a play on "LA Law for you younger folks) to bring science and engineering into the mainstream. I always cringe at shows like Big Bang Theory that portray smart folks as socially inept - given that association, it's no surprise that many kids would rather be "dumb and cool" than "smart and nerdy" when in fact smart people are just like everyone else.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by mbreese on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:19PM (#2276519)
I always cringe at shows like Big Bang Theory that portray smart folks as socially inept ... when in fact smart people are just like everyone else

I think thats what Big Bang Theory does best... portray smart people who are socially inept as someone that anyone can relate to. In the show, they are just regular people trying to get by, find love, etc... well, except for Sheldon.

To me, its amazing that a show that is completely over the top nerdy is incredibly popular.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by burgerbrain on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:27PM (#2276555)
On the other hand, I'm completely unamazed that a show that reinforces negative geek stereotypes while passing itself off as an accurate and fair representation is incredibly popular.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by potatolicious on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:35PM (#2276592)
> "while passing itself off as an accurate and fair representation"

... Wait, what? You know you're talking about a sitcom, right? The whole point of the show is to be ridiculous for laughs.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by burgerbrain on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:47PM (#2276647)
I'm referring to the GPs attitude towards the show. Despite the near constant stream of jokes at geeks expense, people still somehow think it isn't making fun of geeks.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by mbreese on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @03:17PM (#2277005)
It's a sitcom. That's what they do... don't take it so seriously.

My point was that people other than traditional 'geeks' find the show amusing. They get the humor. Geek-culture has gone mainstream.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by scott_s on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @03:37PM (#2277088)
I don't think that's accurate. They're laughing at us, not with us. They don't need to understand "geek-culture" to laugh at us. We just need to be different.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by ShardPhoenix on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @10:24PM (#2278324)
Sheldon is actually played in a pretty high-status way, despite his quirks.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by jhamburger on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @11:59AM (#2276171)
Popular entertainment has tons of smart, cool people- Just none of them spend all their time with solitary, sedentary activities on a computer or in a lab. How many times do you see a 'mission impossible' type hero who goes around kicking ass for most of the movie but suddenly turns into a hacker when he gets to a computer terminal?
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by Anechoic on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @12:28PM (#2276299)
Just none of them spend all their time with solitary, sedentary activities on a computer or in a lab

That's just it - the folks that do spend there time on a computer or in a lab (off the top of my head: the goth girl from NCIS, the Law & Order lab techs, Chloe on 24) all have some sort of anti-social nerd personality type.

Why can't there be a computer tech who works hard at his/her job, has a beer after work, watches sports, etc like everyone else?

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by jhamburger on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @12:34PM (#2276325)
Well if you want the hard truth most of the people I see doing these jobs on TV are actually better looking and less socially awkward than the ones I work with on a daily basis.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by Anechoic on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @12:41PM (#2276353)
@jhamburger (I can't reply to your post)

Well sure, but the folks on TV are better looking and less socially awkward across the board than their real-life counterparts.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by cafard on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:06PM (#2276465)
Have a look at Guy Steele's interview with Fran Allen in a recent CACM--John Cocke was fond of beer, and people used to covet his bar napkins, on which he would sketch out new ideas.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by brown9-2 on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:06PM (#2276467)
I always cringe at shows like Big Bang Theory that portray smart folks as socially inept

Fringe makes science look pretty cool, IMHO.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by spullara on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @01:45PM (#2276636)
I'd take Fringe over Big Bang Theory any day. BBT feels like mockery to me.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by scott_s on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @03:40PM (#2277102)
From what I've seen of Fringe, it makes a mockery of science.
Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by brown9-2 on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @10:24PM (#2278325)
I didn't mean to suggest that it portrays realistic science or an accurate representation of the scientific process - after all this is a show whose main plot revolves around travel between alternate universes and non-human shapeshifting sentient beings - just that the show makes it's scientist character the heroes, and not buffoons to laugh at.
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Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by kenjackson on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @12:01PM (#2276182)
At one point the article says, "Ms. Portman is one of a handful of high-profile actors who happen to have serious scientific credentials, awards, degrees, patents and theorems in their name."

They go on to talk about some other people besides Natalie Portman.

Re:Natalie Portman - Scientist by Anechoic on Tuesday March 01, 2011 @12:03PM (#2276194)
It's about Natalie Portman.

"handful of high-profile actors who happen to have serious scientific credentials"

Hedy Lamarr, Danica McKellar, Mayim Bialik, and Leonard Nimoy all get substantial mentions in the article. The article is framed around Ms. Portman but the inclusion of the other actors indicate that it is not just about her. Certainly Dylan (who has actually performed with Ms. Portman) is more relevant than the other actors who, AFAICT, have not.