Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by devit on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:10PM
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glibc and bash are needed to have a traditional Unix-like Linux-based system and I don't think they have any fully compatible replacements (musl and BSD sh aren't).
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Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by int_19h on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:48PM
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To the extent this is true, it's because other software relies on specific features (and sometimes quirks) of bash and glibc, not because you can't have a workable Unix without them.
Which is to say - ironically, these last remaining dependencies wouldn't be there if open standards were followed more rigorously.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by remcob on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:26PM
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Ah yes, textbook "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" strategy. Very ironic that GNU now looks like it's following this pattern (obviously unintentionally).
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by chubot on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:19PM
(#22755657)
Alpine Linux and many other distros use musl and busybox (non GNU projects, although busybox is GPL).
And I would definitely call them Unix systems, since they run almost all the same software.
Although GCC is still a good argument, since very few distros use Clang by default, I think mostly because of the Linux kernel.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by figomore on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:16PM
(#22755314)
I think ZSH is a valid alternative to Bash.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by tomnipotent on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:34PM
(#22755423)
OS X Catalina even made ZSH the default.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by bashinator on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:21PM
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IIRC, not just a alternative, but a full super-set.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by saagarjha on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:39PM
(#22755771)
No, Zsh is not a full super-set of Bash.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by saagarjha on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:37PM
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I don’t.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by crazypython on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:28PM
(#22755713)
Even macOS runs with GNU Bash.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by wazzaps on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:37PM
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Was replaced with zsh recently
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by crazypython on Thursday April 02, 2020 @12:33PM
(#22760784)
Apple's Command Line Tools installer installs GNU Bash.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by saagarjha on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:40PM
(#22755776)
Bash is still available.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by saagarjha on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @10:33PM
(#22755742)
Not for long, most likely.
Re:GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of GNU (2006)
by new_realist on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @09:48PM
(#22755510)
llvm-libc is in the planning stages.