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Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by blahedo on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @08:32PM (#22744397)
Also interesting about that photo: Five of the 25 have portrait-oriented video feeds. Tbh this may make more sense for this kind of thing (shows more of the person rather than more of the space they're in) but I'm thinking about the hardware—am I correct in inferring that those five are zooming from their mobile? Do high-level UK cabinet ministers not have laptops?
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by sc11 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @08:42PM (#22744469)
I'm speculating, but they might find it more convenient to use a separate device for the video chat? Especially if you're using your laptop a lot during the video call, it's quite convenient to have the chat open elsewhere.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by dexterdog on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @09:44PM (#22744812)
Esp considering I have had the zoom app completely crash my laptop multiple times.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by dhosek on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @10:55PM (#22745153)
Given how cavalier zoom is about privacy and its history on the Mac, the only place I'd be willing to use it is on my phone or ipad where it's boxed in by Apple's restrictions and has undergone app review. Apple had to push a silent OS update to remove zoom's insecure secret web server.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by sixothree on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:30PM (#22745365)
How the heck is Zoom even HIPAA compliant?
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by Legogris on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @01:23AM (#22745953)
Is it though?
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by judge2020 on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @01:45AM (#22746063)
https://zoom.us/healthcare

> HIPAA/PIPEDA plans start at $$200 per month per account, which comes with 10 hosts.

Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by TeMPOraL on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @01:57AM (#22746118)
A relevant thread from yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22735746

Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by Legogris on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @04:59AM (#22746910)
Zoom claiming it's compliant has nothing to do with it actually being compliant.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by kemotep on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @06:14AM (#22747231)
If they have filed the paperwork[0] then they are. (Whether their solution to be compliant is or is not enough would have to be audited.)

Apple's FaceTime is not HIPAA compliant because they haven't filed the paperwork.[1]

(Obviously, there are a lot more steps to it than signing a Business Associate agreement, but I would bet FaceTime is probably a little more secure than Zoom)

[0]:https://www.hipaajournal.com/become-hipaa-compliant/

[1]:https://www.hipaajournal.com/facetime-hipaa-compliant/

Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by neuronic on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @03:48AM (#22746606)
And what about GDPR?
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by Nextgrid on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @08:43AM (#22747984)
Microphone quality is still not a solved problem on laptops, and Windows' sound preferences UI does not make it easy to switch to a Bluetooth headset (that is, if you even have one on you).
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by blntechie on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @03:07AM (#22746422)
Works for them I guess but when screensharing especially for code, mobile phones and tablets don’t work well.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by orthoxerox on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @03:46AM (#22746598)
I doubt they code for a living.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by _-___________-_ on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @01:19AM (#22745938)
I only ever use Zoom on my phone - it frees up my laptop to be used during the call, and I refuse to install anything developed by that company on my laptop.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by distances on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @01:47AM (#22746074)
You can join Zoom meetings on your browser too. It's behind these twelve easy steps:

1. Go to zoom.com 2. Click "Join a meeting" 3. Enter meeting id and click Join 4. Ignore the automatic app download 5. Go back 6. Click "Join a meeting" again 7. Enter meeting id and click Join again 8. Ignore the app download again 9. Click at "If nothing prompts, click here" 10. Click "Join from your browser" 11. Agree to terms of service 12. Enter password and name, click Join

Yes, it actually requires you go back and try again at step 5. What dark pattern?

Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by flir on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @04:43AM (#22746843)
That's.... a thing of beauty. Honestly, it brings a tear to my eye.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by tsimionescu on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @07:53AM (#22747745)
If you are in awe of that, take a look at the official article about doing find and replace in MS OneNote:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/find-and-replace-...

Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by Roritharr on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @04:39AM (#22746825)
What? That's crazy to hide such a useful feature!
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by auscompgeek on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @06:22AM (#22747271)
The meeting host can enable the browser client link without the hassle in their settings. Unfortunately it's disabled by default.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by wil421 on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @08:03AM (#22747801)
Could they be using iPads? I can’t see why a high level executive or politician couldn’t get away with one.
Re:Trolls break into meetings on Zoom by stewbrew on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @12:40AM (#22745748)
Maybe they didn't get audio to work on their notebooks?