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Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by introvert0 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:19PM (#22740637)
Apologies in advance for being harsh, but are you a member in order of your state association of engineers, did you pass the FE exam?, was your school accredited to grant engineering diplomas?

If the answer is not, please do not call yourself engineer

Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by ardit33 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:25PM (#22740714)
That’s not how software engineering works....

I am glad we don’t have to have “certifications” by some bureaucratic local agency to work.

Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by commandlinefan on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:10PM (#22741255)
I kind of wish we did... but it's silly to scold somebody for not having passed a test that doesn't exist.
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by Izkata on Wednesday April 01, 2020 @12:12AM (#22745587)
They did say "engineer", not "software engineer" - that one's not just an accreditation, it's legally protected (in the US at least).
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by Ididntdothis on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:14PM (#22741306)
I wouldn’t mind either...
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by introvert0 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:42PM (#22740945)
You do realize you make a disservice to those who studied and worked hard to obtain a proper engineering degree, right?
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by username90 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:40PM (#22742297)
Firstly software engineer is not a protected title in most of the world.

Secondly the major way to properly learn proper software engineering is to join a top company and learn on the job. I don't see software engineering degrees containing anything useful at all compared to computer science degrees, they just contain some ancient practices which most of the industry moved past ages ago. So I don't really see how someone who studied software engineering at school is more of a software engineer than a person who designs and builds distributed systems at Google.

Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by pwinnski on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:06PM (#22741901)
Welcome to Hacker News. I think you might be lost. Friendly advice: Try spending some time reading posts and comments for a while to become familiar with the site before jumping in.

Again, welcome.

Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by erik_seaberg on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @05:56PM (#22743104)
The "Fundamentals of Engineering - Electrical and Computer" exam requires topics from differential equations to impedance in AC circuits to op-amps to frequency modulation. I would never gong a candidate for not knowing any of those things, because we write computer software; we don't make our own servers out of magnetite and sand.
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by dang on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:08PM (#22741920)
"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: please don't create accounts to break the site guidelines with.

Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by wyclif on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:27PM (#22740734)
That might be an acceptable view in Canada or elsewhere, but it is not so in the United States.
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by alibaba_x on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:24PM (#22740699)
Found the Canadian
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by Ididntdothis on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:22PM (#22740677)
If you follow that logic then a lot of people on this site are just pretenders. I don’t think it’s helpful to discuss the meaning of “engineer” in this context.
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by introvert0 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:39PM (#22740895)
I am not sure about that, I want my doctor to be a licensed m.d. in all contexts.

Same with the firefighters, I don't want a firefighter to be considered as such only on some "contexts".

Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by Ididntdothis on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:41PM (#22740925)
In the US there are no software engineer certifications. So everybody with that title is a fake engineer and companies should not hand out that title.
Re:What is the engineering hiring bar? by efficax on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:17PM (#22741337)
lol