Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by rwmj on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:23AM
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No out-takes? Behind the scenes of the tourist trying to retrieve her pilfered phone??
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Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by throwanem on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:35AM
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I wouldn't, either. Publishing candids of someone from whom you don't have a release is fraught no matter how public the circumstance, and in any case it'd just lead to her being the butt of the world's laughter for fifteen minutes. If it were me, I'd consider that the damnfoolishness of shoving a phone in a monkey's face had neatly constituted its own punishment.
The monkeys are more interesting, anyway.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by SiempreViernes on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:33AM
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Well, at least he (presumably) bought the rights to the pictures of the monkey stealing the camera.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by presumably on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:40AM
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He owns the rights to the pictures he takes. No purchase necessary. Especially in the context of wildlife, there are no human subjects to cloud the issue.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by robterrell on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:57AM
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My guess was the same as the parent poster's -- the pictures of the monkey grabbing the phone, from the phone's point of view, belonged to the tourist, right? Because the phone belonged to the tourist? The photographer must have acquired those rights afterwards. (Although I don't recall the outcome of the copyright case of the monkey that took its own photograph back in 2014...)
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by aqme28 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @12:13PM
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They would belong to the monkey, actually! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
(actually it's very controversial)
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by andromeduck on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:27PM
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Part of a long list of reasons why I will never support Peta.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by claudiawerner on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:52PM
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And for me, part of a long list of reasons I will never be in favor of copyright (unless turned back on itself, as the GPL or other free licenses allow).
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by strathmeyer on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:18PM
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Apparently only websites that steal photos feel monkeys can own things.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by soneil on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @12:15PM
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That concerned pictures taken by the monkey. This is pictures taken by a photographer, with his own camera, by his own will. Nothing remotely disputable.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by Dunedan on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @12:19PM
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If you're talking about the picture with the title "Lens inspection", this wasn't shot by an iPhone, but by one of his Nikon cameras: https://500px.com/photo/17629635/Lens-Inspection-by-Marsel-v...
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by throwanem on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:38AM
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There'd be no question of rights for any of the shots I saw in the article. My personal property being in your photo, taken in and of a public place, doesn't give me any ownership; if you take a picture of me then it can be more complicated, but an object (or a monkey!) has no likeness rights of which I'm aware.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by _ph_ on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @03:58PM
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The ownership/copyright to a picture always belongs to the creative person responsible for creating it, that usually is the photographer. Even if the photo shows persons, the photo is owned by the photographer. Depending on the circumstances of where and how the picture was taken, the depicted persons have to to agree to any publication of the photo - that is what model releases are for.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by throwanem on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:43AM
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These aren't selfies, so the relevance is limited, even assuming (imo charitably) that the arguments against copyright in that case are other than specious.
Re:The story behind a photo of a snow monkey using an iPhone...
by 3JPLW on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:41AM
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I don't think the "lens inspection" picture was taken on an iPhone, not least of which the stolen/drowned one — partly due to its quality, partly due to its name, and partly due to the positioning of the monkey's hands.