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Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by Der_Einzige on Monday March 30, 2020 @05:50PM (#22732596)
Oh boo hoo. I'm playing "my heart goes out for you" on the worlds smallest violin.

The dramatically expanded access to information and the positive benefits of this far outweighs the benefits of the profits to publishers (and the minuscule subset of those profits which filter down to the authors). It's not even in the same ballpark.

The standard deviation of author profits is massive. Don't trust their claim that most authors are hardly earning more than 20k a year as evidence that small time authors gets screwed over. The ones who earn that much are almost never targeted for piracy. Pirates go out of their way to minimize the impact that their actions have on small time authors. It's the same with video game piracy. It's the ones who are making hundreds of thousands a year who are going to lose out.

Make this library permanent for the good of society.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by chx on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:02PM (#22732681)
This is patently untrue. I looked up the wife of my colleague who is the epitome of small itme author and sure enough it's there. You go on mobilism, it's there. Do not try to paint pirates in a positive light. I know them inside out: I have been a software pirate since 1985, I have been the co-sysop of the one of the largest warez FTP sites in Central Europe in what now seems a different life (this was decades ago, it was mostly over by 2003 and fully over in 2004). Noone, absolutely noone cares what they steal. And these days I still pirate my ebooks but then I order the physical book and donate it to the local library and then delete the pirated copy. Only way to deal with DRM and lack of physical space.
Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by Der_Einzige on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:04PM (#22732701)
It's one thing for the book to be available on this library.

It's another for one to directly lose out on potential sales due to that availability.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by chx on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:10PM (#22732736)
This has been the argument for software piracy for the longest time and it's a convincing one: a student can't afford Adobe Photoshop but if they use a pirated copy once they are at a company they will want to use it. Or, in less charitable terms, you can't get blood from a stone, so why bother.

This argument is so untrue for books it's not even funny. There is a huge treasure trove of free ebooks available and very often you can get a used mass paperback for less than a dollar. And there's no win from a pirated copy.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by TeMPOraL on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:27PM (#22732854)
Books, like movies, videogames and often software tools, aren't substitutable. If I like Photoshop, or want to use it because it's popular, I'm unlikely to accept GIMP as a free alternative. If I want to read or watch The Expanse, I'm 100% not going to read some random free e-book or dollar paperback, because that's a different book. You can't substitute Shrek for Star Wars, nor Slime Rancher for Call of Duty.

Commodities don't get pirated. Commodities get market competition.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by chx on Monday March 30, 2020 @09:43PM (#22734196)
So you decided on not just merely passing the time with reading but reading a specific book and because you can't afford to pay for it, now you think you are entitled to it for free because why? If I want to buy a Vuis Luitton suitcase but can only afford American Tourister then I can just help myself to it? How is that right?
Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @04:01AM (#22735700)
> If I want to buy a Vuis Luitton suitcase but can only afford American Tourister then I can just help myself to it? How is that right?

If you could 3D-print yourself a copy that looks just like the original, then sure, I'd say it's absolutely right to do. But that's my opinion, I'm not a fan of the concept of intellectual property. Regardless, what you did here is trying to equate piracy with theft, which is incorrect. Copying does not make the original disappear. Copyright infringement may be a crime, but it's a different crime than theft, both legally and morally.

> but reading a specific book and because you can't afford to pay for it, now you think you are entitled to it for free because why?

Well, if I can't afford it, I'm not going to buy it anyway. The publisher loses nothing over me making a copy. And there's an argument to be made that popular works of art are essential, because they form a shared cultural background; not having access to them means being excluded from the discussions your society is having.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by bigyikes on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:31PM (#22732872)
There have been many occasions in my life where I've pirated some Adobe product. I was about to do so again a few months ago and was worried about downloading malware until I had the realization: "Wait, I have a job now. I can just buy the software!"

It felt good to give Adobe my money, and I am not certain I would have paid for the product today had I not donned my peg-leg and eyepatch growing up.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by tzs on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:32PM (#22732880)
Another factor usually ignored is the effect on substitutes. That student who can't afford several hundred dollars for Photoshop? Maybe everything they actually need to do can be done with Pixelmator and they could afford the $30 for that. But they pirate Photoshop instead.
Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by throwaway3neu94 on Monday March 30, 2020 @09:34PM (#22734142)
Or maybe GIMP can do everything they need so nobody needs to get paid. But if nobody gets paid anyway, might as well copy photoshop instead. Legal issues aside, it doesn't seem that irrational.

I think in practice, the moral argument just doesn't work too well for intellectual property, and creators need to deal with it. Which, unsurprisingly, they do, in different ways (be it through making payment convenient like Netflix, prosecuting individuals like MPAA, or focusing on enterprise deals like Adobe, ... or still pushing the moral angle because a statistical effect is better than none).

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by dws on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:08PM (#22732723)
"Pirates go out of their way to minimize the impact that their actions have on small time authors."

Citation, please.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by Der_Einzige on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:14PM (#22732763)
At least 50% of scene release readmes tell you to buy the game/book if you can. That proportion approaches ~80% the smaller that the developer/author is.

But here's a recent article showing that software piracy increases sales of indie titles - https://www.polygon.com/2020/1/13/21063660/danger-gazers-tor...

In the context of books you'll find the exact same phenomenon.

Re:Authors, Publishers Condemn the 'National Emergency Libra... by Zonulet on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @05:58AM (#22736197)
I am a small time author myself. If someone gives away a pirated copy of one of my books for free, but includes a readme inviting people to buy the book, I do not feel they are 'minimising the impact on me'. In fact I do not feel that makes any difference whatsoever. The best way for them to minimise the impact on me would be to not give away my book in the first place.