Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by hammock on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:26AM
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This study was done in vitro. If I recall the counterindication of aspirin in C19 patients was accelerating pneumonia or something. So it's possible aspirin does both.
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Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by JohnJamesRambo on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:37AM
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Look with suspicion on any in vitro data. There are so many differences between in vitro and a living organism. Nevermind the fact that in vitro tests usually use concentrations that would never be achieved in the body, a fact usually lost on the public. I’d definitely lean towards the “aspirin is bad with Coronavirus” camp on this one.
Source: Myself, a former tester of in vitro effects.
Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by Alex3917 on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:43AM
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> Nevermind the fact that in vitro tests usually use concentrations that would never be achieved in the body, a fact usually lost on the public.
But the reason large doses are used in vitro is because it's easier to show that a chemical actually inhibits viral replication if you can slow down replication by 99.9%. But in real life, you might only need to slow down replication by 10% or whatever to meaningfully improve clinical outcomes.
Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by JohnJamesRambo on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:54AM
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That's true in theory and we should see aspirin doing something in vivo for coronavirus if it did, but we don't. Something else more important seems to be affecting it the other way.
In skimming the article it seems they used 20 mM doses and ranges which is an absolutely enormous amount of anything. We normally considered low uM the range where something is even beginning to be interesting.
Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by PedroBatista on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:54AM
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Yeah about the in vitro thing.. I'm sure gasoline also kills the corona virus. Unfortunately the patient also goes.
Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by dogma1138 on Friday March 27, 2020 @09:33PM
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Aspirin is a blood thinner it might cause your lungs to bleed once they sustain enough damage to their epithelial layer which might make your pneumonia worse.
Re:D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavi...
by aphextron on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:30AM
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>This study was done in vitro. If I recall the counterindication of aspirin in C19 patients was accelerating pneumonia or something. So it's possible aspirin does both.
Relavent: https://xkcd.com/1217/