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Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by graeme on Thursday March 26, 2020 @10:53AM (#22694094)
> after all, globalization is one of the main factors why we're experiencing this deadly pandemic now

Not so. Pandemics travelled around the world before globalization. The black death, smallpox in the americas, syphllis.

This just increases the speed.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by jfk13 on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:00AM (#22694170)
Speed is, however, an important factor in the severity of the impact.
Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by graeme on Thursday March 26, 2020 @12:47PM (#22695411)
In a given area, yes. But with globalization we also got forewarning, and information from those in earlier areas.

Under a less intertwined system, this likely would have spread heavily within each area, and that area would have little info form outside on what to do. Every place a potential Wuhan.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by jayd16 on Thursday March 26, 2020 @01:00PM (#22695555)
I'm not sure modern travel and globalization are the same thing. It only took a few travelers to spread to every state in the union. That doesn't have anything to do with global supply chians.
Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by arcadeparade on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:05AM (#22694222)
syphilis was also caused by globalization!

i hope many travel restrictions become permanent. ban cruises, make tourism difficult and expensive, cut off travel totally between the hemispheres. nature is being completely destroyed by human activity, this is an opportunity to reverse it.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by Dylan16807 on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:15AM (#22694329)
If you're worried about the environment you can just add a carbon recapture tax to gas.

Banning travel between large areas is ridiculous and wouldn't happen. Especially when a policy of quarantine during outbreaks would be equally effective with a vastly smaller cost.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by Retric on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:25AM (#22694451)
Quarantine completely failed to prevent what was a highly localized disease globally in 2 months. We need to accept it’s simply ineffective across international borders unless draconian measures are applied before they seem required. We might get through this with 100,000 people dying globally or 100,000,000 it’s completely unknown at this point. But, should the second happen expect some significant changes to happen for years if not decades.

PS: China’s case fatality rate broke 4%, though they likely undercounted cases by ~50% if not more.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by Dylan16807 on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:26AM (#22694474)
What country even quarantined everyone coming in on a plane?

I might have been unclear, but I was suggesting quarantine for everyone coming in, as an alternative to banning travel forever.

Quarantine set up once you already have an outbreak is uh, a different matter.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by Retric on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:31AM (#22694515)
Internal travel was suspended between several countries, though far to late to make a significant difference. A partial list: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/i...

Saying they waited to long is true, but simply means it fails due to politics.

Edit: NM, misunderstood what you where referring to.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by Dylan16807 on Thursday March 26, 2020 @12:05PM (#22694972)
Yeah, far too late. I mean the equivalent of locking things down in January, not March.

A total travel ban would also fail due to politics, so that's not a really helpful criteria.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by arcadeparade on Thursday March 26, 2020 @11:37AM (#22694597)
I think the list of things that people believe are 'ridiculous and would never happen' has greatly reduced in size in the last few weeks.

Also, there's a lot more to environmental destruction than excess carbon.

Re:3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits by Dylan16807 on Thursday March 26, 2020 @12:18PM (#22695102)
Outside of fuel and labor, the resources spent to enable travel are quite minor. I don't think trying to stop carbon-neutral travel helps the environment in a meaningful way.