Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by rednerrus on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:25PM
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Then the airlines should have to borrow the money. We can not afford to have industries that are too big to fail that are not nationalized.
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Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by JMTQp8lwXL on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:39PM
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When banks were bailed out, they paid back every penny. Holding the airline industry to the same standard would be equitable.
Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by lovich on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:15PM
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Did they payback every real penny or nominal penny? The paybacks weren't instantaneous and iirc they were given low interest loans.
Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by spaced-out on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:56PM
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This is not mentioned enough. I see people often state that the government made money on the TARP bailout, without taking into account inflation. As this Wikipedia article points out, with multiple citations, the government made a 0.6% annualized return on TARP, at a time when inflation was ~1.5%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program#...
Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by philwelch on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @06:10AM
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I would suspect that the entire world economy not collapsing even further than it did would make up for that last 0.9%.
Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by spaced-out on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @12:43PM
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There are 2nd order effects to consider, though. We've created a huge moral hazard in the financial markets by rewarding financially risky behavior and cementing the idea that if a company gets large enough it's not allowed to fail.
Airlines spending every spare penny they had, and in some cases taking out debt, to gamble on the market and keeping nothing in the bank as a safety net is one such side-effect.
Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by philwelch on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @10:54PM
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The fact that Lehman Brothers, Bear Sterns, and Washington Mutual no longer exist somewhat refutes that narrative.
Re:Stock buybacks are dangerous for the economy
by spaced-out on Thursday March 19, 2020 @02:29PM
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The people who ran those companies retired rich. Do you really think anyone going into business or finance looks at those people's careers as a cautionary tale? I know I'd trade my career for theirs in a heartbeat.