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Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by dmix on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:03AM (#22602469)
> each day along with a zinc pill.

The scientific studies being cited for these COVID-19 vaccines using Chloroquine specifically state zinc supplements by themselves are not ionized and are therefore useless for fighting the virus. Even though zinc entering cells is a key part of how it works, zinc can't enter the cells in question unless it's properly ionized, which is why they use Chloroquine... an ionized zinc delivery system... jumping to "lets all take some Zinc pills with gin & tonic" is irresponsible advice IMO.

These sorts of Naturopathy proposals is exactly how we got COVID-19 in the first place (ie, people eating Pangolins in east asia for Chinese medicine purposes - the most trafficked animal in the world - which just happens to be infected with a coronavirus that matches 99%+ to the one currently making the rounds).

This sort of weak adherence to a scientific approach to medicine + some vague historical reasoning is the problem, not the solution.

Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by pillefitz on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:05AM (#22602755)
Zinc supplementation is an effective treatment against many commonly found viruses. Are you saying the new virus is an exception to this? Seriously curious, as I haven't looked into it specifically.

Also: Gargling a zinc/water solution has an astringent effect and removes the bacterial film in your throat, which seems to help in the initial phase of an infection.

Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by dmix on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:50PM (#22606918)
The scientific study wasn't even for COVID-19 but another very similar Coronavirus and yes they said it would have no effect on the cells without ionization (specifically zinc entering the cell to blocking an RNA that's needed by the virus to replicate).

There was a video of a doctor breaking down the biochemistry of it that got posted here the last time Chloroquine came up, which I can't find just now.

If it were only just as easy as taking zinc pills... I take vitamins daily already just to be safe (there's far more than coronaviruses floating around). I just don't expect them to be enough to prevent something as serious as COVID-19. There's a reason Chloroquine is being studied and not zinc by itself and is 100x more expensive to buy on the internet than zinc supplements, even before it became a meme. It's just not that simple.

That hasn't stopped naturopathy from spreading before though.

Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by pillefitz on Saturday March 21, 2020 @04:58AM (#22645394)
Not in direct reply to your post, but slighty interesting anecdata: I likely caught COVID-19 1-2 days ago (light fever, headaches, loss of smell, but no runny nose): I gargled with Zinc as I noticed the first symptoms, had Cinchona bark tea yesterday. After a day, almost all symptoms disappeared except for the loss of smell, which is generally considered a late-stage symptom.

Given that the common cold without any treatment typically lasts around 5 days or so, it might point to some efficacy of the treatment.

Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by giardini on Monday March 30, 2020 @11:22PM (#22734664)
Would you share your recipe for cinchona bark tea? How judge the strength and how much to drink per day?

I bought some cinchona bark (cut, but is powdery) and they have a recipe on the bag but no specification of strength or how much to drink.

Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by jasonmp85 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:48AM (#22602669)
Pangolins aren’t the source and I’m not even gonna bother to explain.
Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by swiley on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:55AM (#22602705)
It might not be that specific animal but the Chinese wet food markets have a history of pretty serious viruses, this is just the worst and most recent.

Remember, it’s this kind of thing that brought us HIV so it could get even worse.

Re:Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of C... by dmix on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:11PM (#22608104)
I’m always open to being educated. I was referencing articles on Nature from February pointing to Pangolins more than any other mammal (without full certainty of course, that takes time).