Re:2009 flu pandemic in the United States
by _-___________-_ on Monday March 16, 2020 @02:52AM
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How did you arrive at 6 million?
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That's 2% of 280 million, which is the conservative number for the COVID-19 deathrate
Re:2009 flu pandemic in the United States
by _-___________-_ on Monday March 16, 2020 @03:14AM
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No, it's not the conservative number. The UK chief medical adviser estimates it at 0.6%, which is much easier to support with the available data (case fatality rate and an estimate of what proportion of infections are being detected as cases) than 2%.
2% is not a conservative number. It's expected to come in at 0.1%-0.5%. That's bad enough.
I did not seen 0.1%-0.5% estimate in any official claim. They were all 2% or above.
Re:2009 flu pandemic in the United States
by _-___________-_ on Monday March 16, 2020 @03:17AM
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Chief medical adviser of the UK govt claims 0.6%.
2% or above is only reached in populations that are tested sparsely. In countries that test more like South Korea and Germany* the death rate is much lower, because more infection cases are known. Italy's death rate is currently so high because only severe cases have been tested, because of limited test availability. The death rate will trend lower when more tests are performed. Germany currently has ~6000 infected and 13 death.
* even in Germany you are (at least till very recently) only tested if you show symptoms AND have been in contact with an infected person or have been to a heavily hit region).
What data supports 0.1% - 0.5%?
Numbers from Switzerland, South Korea, Germany... countries that test more people tend to have lower numbers because not only the severe cases are found.
Please provide a link with data
There is virtually no chance that 85% of the population will get covid-19
It is pretty much in line with worst case scenarios in many European countries.
How's that?
What? That is the worst case that governments are planning for / trying to avoid.
Where did you get that 85% number. Most radical I saw so far was 70%
uk speculates at 80%. I've read 85% (for another country) but I don't have time to dig it up.
https://youtu.be/VNqfElehhKc?t=1765 29:25
Obviously very uncertain numbers no matter who you ask.