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Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by joe_the_user on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:37PM (#22586536)
The problem is the alternative is even less feasible. Containment is very unlikely to work, and slowing the epidemic too much leads to it happening in winter.

Containment has worked in Wuhan. Containment is being attempted after-the-fact in Italy. Containment is possible, it's just a matter of how extreme gets. But even the most containment does not look the hundreds of thousands or millions dead that letting everyone be infected looks like.

Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by Reedx on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:02PM (#22586727)
For now, but what's going to happen as they go back to work, school and resume travel? Unless they stay locked down until we have a vaccine, which is a year+ away at least. And second waves can be worse than the first.

I don't think anyone knows for sure what strategy is going to work best in the meantime, considering experts disagree and the world is conducting a massive A/B test...

Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by joe_the_user on Monday March 16, 2020 @03:36AM (#22590780)
Why? When you have aggressive testing everywhere, eliminating the virus seems quite possible. Moreover, when you move slowly to reopen and test aggressively, you can detect any reappearance and squash it.

A variety of the world's diseases are controlled by testing and surveillance, not by cures - TB, for example.

Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by thu2111 on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:26AM (#22591759)
What does aggressive testing everywhere mean though? People spread it whilst asymptomatic. They don't know they need testing. There aren't enough test kits to literally test everyone over and over, and people wouldn't put up with it anyway.

Most viruses aren't as infectious as this one is, comparison to TB or even previous SARS viruses doesn't work for that reason. You can track people down by them expressing symptoms, then test them, then isolate them and it works. That hasn't worked so far with this.

Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by baq on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:08PM (#22586777)
no, test everyone, quarantine every positive case and their contacts. need time to build testing infrastructure. SK shows this is viable.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by cameronh90 on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:52PM (#22586659)
It's possible to contain it with extreme measures, of course. But what happens when you release the lock down and it's still burning through the rest of the world, especially Africa and India? Do you ban every foreign visitor for the next year?
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by aidos on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:13PM (#22586818)
That’s the bit I don’t get - what’s the end game with the lock down? Are you hoping that everyone actually gets it slowly over the course of being isolated (ish). Otherwise have you not just postponed the issue until you set everyone free again?
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by jacquesm on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:56PM (#22586684)
Seems like a small price to pay.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by baq on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:09PM (#22586787)
from a high risk country, yes. from a low risk country, test every single arrival.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by Engineering-MD on Sunday March 15, 2020 @07:22PM (#22587846)
But the tests have a high false negative rate. Let them through and it can all re occur.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi... by baq on Monday March 16, 2020 @03:01AM (#22590633)
Current ones, yes. New ones are in development and keep appearing weekly.