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Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by ryanmarsh on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:07PM (#22572874)
A whole lot of us got into programming as kids because of VB. What do young people have today like it?
Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by Joeri on Saturday March 14, 2020 @02:45AM (#22573634)
Scratch is the easiest way to teach programming to kids in a visual way. Much easier than VB, you can start at a younger age, but you can’t make real apps. You can however make games and control devices like the microbit.

The progression from there is python for those who want to control devices, or web dev for those more drawn to the visual design part. A missing piece is something for making games that sits in the middle of scratch and C++/unity. I don’t know how kids make that transition.

Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by nekeo9jd on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:55PM (#22573063)
No wonder so many programmers stick to boring business apps! ;-)

I got into coding qbasic (meh) & amiga (yeaaah) game engines in the 80s.

Currently teaching kids with Computercraft, to manipulate virtual worlds rather than boring spreadsheets.

IMO that sort of computer work will be obsolete by the time today’s kid are grown.

I’d probably avoid more than basic coding in general anymore and focus on math-y stuff. Just my take on where need will be, and discussing this with education researchers, and other thinkers.

I have a hard time believing we’ll carry as much code from the last couple decades as we had to from the previous few.

So much of it these days is web ui’s with a short shelf life relative to foundational code we shlepped forward in kernels, banking, and complex industry systems.

Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by pjmlp on Saturday March 14, 2020 @03:33AM (#22573788)
I got into coding via Timex 2068 Basic, Z80/8086/68000 Assembly, Turbo Basic/Turbo Pascal Demoscene meetups.

Maybe coding the Arduino/ESP32 game boy clones is appealing to today's kids.

Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by pedrocx486 on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:22PM (#22572936)
From my friend's kids, apparently python is the most common to start coding.
Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by _bxg1 on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:52PM (#22573050)
HTML/JavaScript. That has the shortest start-making-a-GUI story (plain JavaScript; React/Webpack/etc. absolutely do not have this level of accessibility).
Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by xmprt on Saturday March 14, 2020 @01:30AM (#22573406)
I'd say Vue is a good stepping stone to other frameworks as well. I feel more productive using Vue than pure Javascript.
Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by _bxg1 on Saturday March 14, 2020 @10:58AM (#22575720)
It is a good stepping-stone, but it still isn't on Visual Basic's level of accessibility
Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by spikej on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:23PM (#22572939)
Winforms with C#?
Re:Microsoft plots the end of Visual Basic by digitalnative97 on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:37PM (#22572990)
Moding games