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Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by cj on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:19PM (#22552529)
I see in some places it says this includes cargo / shipping. Is that true?
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by scottLobster on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:21PM (#22552542)
Watched the broadcast live, yes it includes cargo shipments. Something tells me the markets are going to react badly to that one
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by wpietri on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:43PM (#22552706)
Including cargo doesn't make much sense to me. Did they include a justification for this?

In contrast, the CDC's take is that "in general, because of poor survivability of these coronaviruses on surfaces, there is likely very low risk of spread from products or packaging that are shipped over a period of days or weeks at ambient temperatures." -- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html

Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by scottLobster on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:48PM (#22552753)
Broadcast didn't give any rationale, maybe they're concerned about the ship crews being carriers?
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by tssva on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:55PM (#22552805)
What cargo it does and doesn't cover isn't really clear from the announcement. What Trump says often doesn't completely match what the policy turns out to be. When agencies release the actual rules we will know more. I wouldn't be surprised if cargo only meant air cargo.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by BryantD on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:16PM (#22552943)
They walked back the cargo restrictions: https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by wbl on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:41PM (#22552684)
Forget markets: we make drugs here they need there and vice versa.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by jmspring on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:37PM (#22552648)
Ports are basically already at a standstill.

I personally feel this policy will get altered as the markets tank further.

Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by yibg on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:35PM (#22552636)
yea I'm guessing the market will be all red again tomorrow.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by banana_giraffe on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:00PM (#22552840)
Safe bet, it feel almost 3.75% after hours right after the announcement.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @11:04PM (#22553281)
Futures are already way down. I am almost debating staying home tomorrow just to trade. But as other posters pointed out, he seems to have mispoken.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by dathinab on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:16PM (#22552946)
Honestly given how long a cargo ship takes from the EU to the USA and given that the crew of ships has basically no contact with the cargo crates this makes no sense at all...

The only think I can come up with is that this will allow Trump to show how bad it is that the USA is so much international dependent for certain goods and use that then to push through regulations to enforce more local production. But if it's really that it's quite crazy.

A normal travel ban on the other side will slow/reduce/eliminate cross infection between the EU and the USA which can be helpful to slow the spread. But then from all what I can tell it might be at a point where the slowing of the spread caused by EU/USA cross infection doesn't matter due to many more local sources of infection... Well we will see. At least during the ban he can't really put the blame of any increase onto the EU anymore as travel was cut.

Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by rocha on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:49PM (#22552757)
S&P 500 Futures are already down 3%
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by advaita on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @11:14PM (#22553345)
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by anigbrowl on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:49PM (#22552761)
This isn't just about COVID-19. This is economic warfare.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by aabhay on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:32PM (#22553050)
You mean economic suicide?
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by Deimorz on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:40PM (#22552676)
Yes, it's strange that a lot of articles don't seem to be mentioning that. Here's the relevant section of the address: https://youtu.be/pdO2HEtv92c?t=105

> And these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval. Anything coming from Europe to the United States is what we are discussing.

Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by jcranmer on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:40PM (#22552673)
That seems to be the news.

I suspect that Monday will shortly be the second largest drop in absolute terms after tomorrow. We might even see tomorrow crack the top 10 in percentage terms.

Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by nl on Thursday March 12, 2020 @12:36AM (#22553813)
Trump said "these restrictions will not only apply to the tremendous amounts of cargo..."

but DHS is now clarifying that it doesn't apply to cargo, and the order itself doesn't mention cargo[1].

So who knows?

[1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation...

Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by azernik on Thursday March 12, 2020 @02:22AM (#22554282)
It's pretty clear that Trump misread his statement. In more ways than just that one.
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by gran_colombia on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:37PM (#22552656)
Canada will go $$$!
Re:U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days by bilal4hmed on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:21PM (#22552545)
yes just heard that on CNN