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Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by jacquesm on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:19AM (#22546034)
That's borderline criminal. To blatantly lie about the risks - especially elderly passengers - people are taking should be actionable in some way. These emails will come back to haunt them if family of future casualties sues them. I sincerely hope they go out of business.
Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by turbonoobie on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:26AM (#22546095)
Borderline? How isn’t it criminal?
Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by sneak on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:34AM (#22546157)
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and I am not your lawyer.

Salespeople lying, within certain limits, does not seem to be treated as fraud by most governments, caveat emptor and all.

If they tell you the alcohol on the cruise will be free and you sign a contract saying so, and then it actually isn’t and you have to pay more, that’s one thing. If they tell you it’s going to be sunny and warm when you’re taking a cruise to Alaska in winter, that’s a different thing.

Lying or deceiving during sales about things other than the product is a large part of a salesperson’s job, I believe (including but not limited to making the customer think the salesperson likes and respects them).

Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by adrr on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @11:20AM (#22546550)
Saying “demand is high in Caribbean” is fine since the definition of demand is subjective. Saying coronavirus doesn’t affect warm weather places is criminal.
Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by ebrenes on Thursday March 12, 2020 @10:44AM (#22557369)
The issue is that any competent law firm will pull up articles and comments by officials stating that warm weather will dampen or hinder COVID-19 spread. They would only need to pull up a video of Trump stating as much and make a case that it's "reasonable" to believe the president.

And even more serious sources basically say: "we don't know at this time", which is not enough to make these actions criminal (as per current laws, per my limited unprofessional understanding).

Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by ryandrake on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:28AM (#22546103)
Then again, who is stupid enough take medical advice from a vacation salesman? These customers have agency and are ultimately the decision makers. What this company is doing is unethical, but we all need to be responsible for the decisions we make. If I decide to go on a cruise right now, knowing what has been going on, it’s not the company’s fault if I get sick.
Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by jeltz on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @11:00AM (#22546365)
Sure, but scamming the gullible is still both criminal and immoral. And similarly intentional dangerous misrepresentation of facts like this should be criminal (and maybe already is, I do not know American law that well) even if you would have to be an idiot to actually believe it.
Re:Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie Abou... by chungus_khan on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:38AM (#22546199)
It's not really medical advice in the sense someone would normally think of it, it's vacation safety advice. While one should probably treat the words of any salesperson with extreme skepticism, a lot of people don't, and those most at risk (the elderly) use the official word of their cruise company as their main source of safety advice (usually of the form "get this vaccination" or "beware this part of town" or "this kind of tour operator on shore is a scam"). And regardless, salespeople are absolutely expected to be responsible for the claims they make, regardless of one's views on how much they should be trusted.