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Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by JumpCrisscross on Monday March 09, 2020 @03:55PM (#22529099)
> Mattresses were a notoriously opaque and user-hostile market

Based on the data, I think we can conclude that opacity and user hostility are insufficient criteria for a DTC play. (Unless consumers are willing to pay a premium for the removal of said opacity and hostility.)

Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by wpietri on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:21PM (#22529334)
I think it's too early to say. For me the real problem with these companies is VC money seeking VC-sized returns, which often come from getting outsize market power (e.g., the FAANGs).

I think the DTC companies mostly can't build the moats needed to make that kind of money. So I think a reckoning is overdue. But once key players can no longer subsidize each sale, we'll find out for sure where the store-vs-DTC balance is.

My personal guess is that plenty of people will keep buying DTC goods, and that many categories will be more than competitive with brick-and-mortar competitors. So I expect DTC mattresses will be a good business, even if none of the current big players survive the culling.

Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by sjwright on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:34PM (#22529457)
Opacity and user hostility tends to exist to substantially inflate prices or thwart discounting. Lower prices are sufficient for a DTC entrant to grab share.
Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by fasteddie on Monday March 09, 2020 @06:29PM (#22530604)
Maybe just a little before Casper was founded, I bought a memory foam mattress off of Amazon that was well-reviewed and could be delivered with Prime. It's been a great mattress. That's still an option today -- and at a few hundred dollars cheaper than the main DTCs, I'm not quite sure where they can really provide a ton of additional value.
Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by Spooky23 on Monday March 09, 2020 @06:55PM (#22530804)
You have some assurance that you’re buying a consistent product.

Buying a foam mattress on Amazon sounds like inviting some sort of toxic mess of outgassing junk into your bedroom. No thanks.

Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by blaser-waffle on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @10:50AM (#22535911)
Yeah I got an "egg crate" mattress topper off of Amazon and had to let that thing sit in my garage for a week before it didn't reek. I can only wonder how much it off gassed after that, but my bedroom has decent ventilation so hopefully I didn't breathe in too many carcinogens.
Re:The Warby Parker clones are imploding by notyourday on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @09:08AM (#22535075)
> Based on the data, I think we can conclude that opacity and user hostility are insufficient criteria for a DTC play.

DTC at a 40% discount from "I can buy it walking into a show room staffed by a dozen salesmen in a Manhattan shopping district" is not enough of a discount. Make a discount 85% of that every damn day and we can talk.