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Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by koheripbal on Thursday March 05, 2020 @03:46PM (#22498010)
It's actually somewhat surprising that mire people do not experiment more with their sleep cycles.

I recently had a lot of trouble sleeping due to stress and found a solution whereby I began listening to old TV shows while I sleep with earphones in bed.

It was miraculous. But one odd side effect is that I don't really dream anymore - at least not in the same way. Since the shows are playing, it's almost like they are dreaming for me.

If the phone stops playing the shows for some reason, I'll have dreams again - and often wake up due to some annoying thoughts about work.

I haven't noticed any negative effects. Certainly there was a massive positive benefit of just being able to sleep when I couldn't before.

... but these sorts of things should be avenues of research.

Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by didericis on Thursday March 05, 2020 @04:06PM (#22498249)
I’m pretty sure dreams correlate with deep sleep and REM, and that being exposed to stimulus with dialogue like TV (ie, not things like constant fan noise, wind, ocean sounds, etc) will keep you from reaching that deep sleep.

I’d be cautious about doing what you’re doing long term. I think you’d be better off learning to let go of stressful thoughts before bed, and to make your bedroom a very calm, peaceful, non work related place where all you do is rest and relax. Watching old tv shows before bed, or while on a timer that will turn off when you’re asleep, sounds like a good way to get you relaxed, but I don’t think it’s great to have that type of stimulation continue during sleep.

I’ve done the same thing you’re describing during high stress periods with podcasts, and while it’s better than letting worries keep you up, I find myself feeling more “shallow” and less insightful/less rested if they stay on throughout the night. When I allow myself to relax and drift off without distraction, I find myself feeling much more “full” and “together” in the mornings, particularly if I take the time to go over and record my dreams.

Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by koheripbal on Thursday March 05, 2020 @05:56PM (#22499252)
I am still hitting deep/REM sleep - that isn't changing. If I weren't, I'd feel terrible.

It has been about 6 months of doing this all night, every night. So far, I feel myself.

The key is to use old familiar programs. Things you can visualize even though you're just listening to them. It's that familiarity that allows your brain to have a sense of comfort, while not really being stimulated.

In any case, the experiment continues...

Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by hnick on Thursday March 05, 2020 @06:43PM (#22499662)
I've been overcome with sleepiness at my desk when watching video games on Twitch/YouTube with a calm narrator (no excitable screaming thanks). Something about it makes my mind wander and generating the visuals but not being in control of them seems to be an important step to falling asleep. Sounds similar to what you are doing and maybe I should try it.
Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by fencepost on Thursday March 05, 2020 @09:09PM (#22500436)
I'm pretty sure there'd be a huge difference between doing this with old TV shows (familiar, no learning, basically structured background noise) and doing it with podcasts (new material, news, etc).
Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by amelius on Thursday March 05, 2020 @06:28PM (#22499532)
Perhaps you could use sleep tracking software to determine when you're about to wake up, and take an action such as resume playing of a show.

That way you can get more REM sleep, while still not waking up due to lack of background noise.

Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by themodelplumber on Thursday March 05, 2020 @10:07PM (#22500677)
Do you sleep perfectly on your back? I love it but had to wonder how the headphones thing works. I'm a rotisserie sleeper. :-)
Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by fenwick67 on Thursday March 05, 2020 @04:50PM (#22498736)
You should really consider taking to a doctor about managing your anxiety.
Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by koheripbal on Thursday March 05, 2020 @05:52PM (#22499214)
What I have found is a million times better than any drugs any doctor can prescribe.
Re:Discovering the brain’s nightly “rinse cycle” by fenwick67 on Thursday March 05, 2020 @07:21PM (#22499900)
I used to do this exact same thing, until I got my anxiety under control. If your anxiety keeps you from sleeping every night, that's abnormal and treatment can help you, not just with sleep but with your whole day. Treatment doesn't necessarily mean drugs. I'm definitely projecting, and make your own choices obviously, but in your post I definitely see myself a year ago before I started dealing with my underlying problem.