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Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by judge2020 on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @09:44PM (#22490474)
> We need competition in this space.

Hard to compete against a free service like YouTube. You'd need to build out your own infrastructure if you want to deliver videos cost-effectively, you'll have to build your own ad network to make any revenue, and even then you'll need some way to draw both content creators and users to your service to have any chance.

We had some competitors, but Vimeo effectively gave up and is marketing for B2B, and Twitch's video upload feature doesn't work since they haven't pushed hard enough for it (a huge marketing push, some UI work, and exclusivity deals on Twitch's side would go a long way if it can get any initial momentum).

Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by rabuse on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:01PM (#22490558)
One way, is to start something up, and then get acquired by Amazon, Netflix, or any other larger player that has the infrastructure for it.
Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by MattSayar on Thursday March 05, 2020 @03:27PM (#22497801)
Netflix's infrastructure IS Amazon
Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by redis_mlc on Friday March 06, 2020 @02:12AM (#22501582)
No, Netflix has their own CDN.

The servers running in AWS are mostly metadata.

Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by uk_programmer on Thursday March 05, 2020 @01:51AM (#22491497)
> You'd need to build out your own infrastructure if you want to deliver videos cost-effectively.

For non-streaming video web-torrent is probably the best attempt I've seen as it offloads bandwidth to the viewers.

However the real problem that is impossible to get around is storage. To run a moderately large site the largest cost is storage as you will be seeding a copy of the video.

The few competitors (which are about <1% of youtube's views) are built quite poorly IMO.

You won't beat youtube by copying it. You need to build something new that addresses many of the short comings.

Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by FeepingCreature on Thursday March 05, 2020 @02:08AM (#22491555)
People want local copies of videos anyways, to get around takedowns. So why not do a Freenet-like thing where videos that you like are cached on your host, so you keep hosting them for others?
Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by uk_programmer on Thursday March 05, 2020 @02:34AM (#22491661)
WebTorrents work like regular torrents and can be downloaded via a torrent client. You could just provide a magnet link.
Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by SpelingBeeChamp on Thursday March 05, 2020 @02:21AM (#22491602)
And how do the content creators get paid in this torrent-based system? That’s the “real problem” with it. It won’t have high quality content. (At least not legally.)
Re:Explaining copyright broke the YouTube copyright system by uk_programmer on Thursday March 05, 2020 @02:33AM (#22491654)
On a site (which uses webtorrent) you can either serve ads (like youtube does), BAT (or equivalent) or have a subscriber model.

I would wage most people won't even know they are being served by the web torrent mechanism when you hit the page. The video player looks like a regular html 5 video player.

You can just point youtube-dl at a video. However the vast majority of viewers just use the site / phone app.