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Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by yakshaving_jgt on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:46AM (#22440791)
There is quite a difference in how speed limits are enforced in most of Europe vs most of the USA. European authorities are generally far more lenient and reasonable.
Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by mushtar on Friday February 28, 2020 @03:47AM (#22441447)
That's not true at all from my experience, quite the opposite.

For example, in California the speed of traffic on the highway is quite often 80-85mph in a 65mph zone, and not enforced. That wouldn't fly in Germany on any road with a speed limit.

Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by cosmodisk on Friday February 28, 2020 @09:49AM (#22443099)
I don't think so. Electronic speed systems with fines sent to your home no matter where you from, mobile speed detectors, unmarked police cars, all sorts of cameras and etc. Which country is lenient,may I ask?
Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by yakshaving_jgt on Friday February 28, 2020 @10:04AM (#22443208)
You will rarely get pulled over for speeding on the motorway in the UK. You will be fined if caught by a speed camera, but for the most part they're clearly marked and drivers know to slow down. For those who are pulled over for speeding, they're usually let off with a warning provided there's nothing else going on, such as dangerous driving, or substance abuse.

In Germany, you can easily contest speeding accusations when caught on camera, especially if your face is not clearly visible. My first speeding ticket ever was actually on the Autobahn. They wrote me a letter saying that I had been accused of speeding. They never followed up with it.

Sweden has 600 traffic cops to cover the whole country (at least that was what I was told in a Swedish driving school in 2014). Getting pulled over for speeding on the motorway rarely happens. I once drove from Ystad to Göteborg going over 200kmh most of the way. No problem. I was once spoken to by a police officer after I drove through the tunnel in the centre of Göteborg at more than twice the speed limit. The officer simply asked me to slow down.

In Poland the motorways are very well made, and so the speed limit is a bit higher — 140kmh if I remember correctly. There aren't any speed cameras on the motorway, and in my experience the police won't come and issue fines to people unless there's been an accident. Even then, the maximum fine is ~€100.

Some countries — I think most — are quite lenient. Some countries like Spain are more like the USA, and actively look for people to fine by hiding in different places every time. The Polish don't even bother hiding. If they want to raise some revenue, they'll sit in the same spots every time. It's also not true that every EU country will pursue a speeding fine no matter where you are from.

Every friend I have in the USA who has been pulled over for speeding has been fined. Police in the USA are militant. That's just part of their culture. This is pretty clear in all the videos available on YouTube too.

Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by michalf6 on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:45PM (#22444611)
Can confirm the bit on Polish motorways, me and many other people I know / see regularly travel in the 200kph+ range. Roads are good enough to handle that relatively safely, there is good lane discipline among drivers so you don't have to slow down that often, there is no speed cameras at all and you only see police when there has been an accident.

I got a 1200cc hypersport because of these conditions - the ability to warp-speed between cities at full throttle is awesome.

Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by Stevvo on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @03:50AM (#22472916)
Right, I once drove to Heathrow at 99 MPH when late for a flight, and at that moment noticed most drivers in the inner lane were going 99. Nobody goes faster than 100, because if you do get caught above 100, you would loose your license.
Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by kungito on Friday February 28, 2020 @02:25AM (#22441130)
Ummm it's mostly speed cameras I'd say so 0 space for leniency
Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by jeroenhd on Friday February 28, 2020 @02:55AM (#22441228)
If you do think a fine is unfair you can contest it pretty easily though. Most people who do this are incorrect and end up still paying the fine (because the were actually speeding) but in cases where the cameras are wrong or if there was something special going on the fine is usually thrown out the window.

At least that's my observation here in .nl. Obviously the cameras aren't always right, but the people I see complaining the most are also the ones that drive >10% over the speed limit by default anyway.

Re:Citroën introduces a two-seat EV that costs €2,644 and th... by PopeDotNinja on Friday February 28, 2020 @03:13AM (#22441304)
I learned to slow down. Got two tickets in a week in the Czech Republic, both for about 10km over the limit. That's about 6mph, which is most likely not going to warrant a ticket in the USA.