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Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by dkdk8283 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @11:25AM (#22434635)
I agree most of this is just a feel good campaign.

Banning plastic straws infuriates me. Paper straws are trash. I carry my own plastic ones and use them as needed.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by liotier on Thursday February 27, 2020 @11:36AM (#22434784)
What country do you live in ? Are straws necessities there ? I live in France and I can't remember the last time I used a straw - must have been a couple of years ago...
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by swiley on Thursday February 27, 2020 @11:44AM (#22434901)
I tried drinking coffee through a straw one summer because it’s supposed to protect your teeth.

I’m pretty sure I’m at a greater risk of throat cancer now, and other than that I’m not too sure why you would want them.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by nkrisc on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:09PM (#22435204)
If that's a concern, the more practical solutions are to 1) brush your teeth after drinking coffee or 2) don't drink coffee.

I do choose to drink coffee and don't brush immediately after and accept the risk to my teeth.

I was worried about the effect of soda on my teeth so I stopped drinking it.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by KoftaBob on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:46PM (#22436362)
Which is why it's not recommended to use a straw with hot beverages, only cold ones.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by pnutjam on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:31PM (#22435498)
hot drinks != use straw

cold drinks = use straw

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by pnutjam on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:30PM (#22435479)
My teeth hurt if I drink icy beverages without a straw. I think it can also contribute to tooth staining, and probably cavities if it's a sugary drink.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by danaris on Thursday February 27, 2020 @03:01PM (#22437178)
There are people with disabilities that make it difficult to impossible for them to drink without using a straw. Until plastic straws were banned, they were transparently accommodated by the existing systems.

Now, they're shamed for or outright prevented from using the accessibility devices that allow them to actually, y'know, consume necessary and lifegiving liquid.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by i_am_proteus on Thursday February 27, 2020 @11:50AM (#22434967)
Straws were originally introduced for public health reasons, so that your mouth need not touch a surface previously touched by someone else's mouth (and which was not well-cleaned).

I'm not aware of any studies confirming or denying their advantage in the era of modern food safety standards.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by poulsbohemian on Thursday February 27, 2020 @11:53AM (#22434993)
So in what way have you been harmed then, if you are using a reusable straw rather than one that would otherwise end up in a landfill or require recycling? We have metal and silicon ones we use - chances are our family will never need a disposable plastic or paper straw ever again, so I fail to see how we’ve been harmed in this ban.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by nkrisc on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:08PM (#22435183)
At the same time, I don't miss them. Turns out that I never really needed them in the first place. Sure, some people might need them, but I imagine the vast majority of people don't really need to use a straw.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by Tyr42 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:48PM (#22436383)
It's a bit unfortunate for people with mobility issues who needed straws though. They benefited from it being a common thing and how they'll need to pack their own or something.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by ganstyles on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:33PM (#22436216)
Same. All cold brew coffee lately seems to come without straws and I don't miss them. I do carry around a reusable straw, one of the singular swag items from a conference that I've used. It's really a small trade-off from what, for me, must have been 1000 plastic straws used annually.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by prepend on Thursday February 27, 2020 @06:39PM (#22439153)
You drink 3 cold brew coffees a day? Your environmental impact would be so much better just skipping one coffee a week than all of your plastic straw usage.

This is what bothers me is that it prohibits me from using straws for a nonissue.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by standardUser on Thursday February 27, 2020 @03:03PM (#22437202)
That one-time use plastic straw - an object that no one strictly needs and has many alternatives - will persist in the environment indefinitely and will cause harm to ecosystems.

You can think that's OK (I guess), but you can't pretend that preventing permanent harmful waste is only about feeling good. It's about preventing permanent harmful waste. Feeling good can be a little bonus I suppose.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by lopmotr on Thursday February 27, 2020 @05:37PM (#22438721)
No it won't if it's in a properly managed landfill. This is the misconception that anti-plastic fanatics have. Plastic doesn't kill fish when it's trapped underground forever.

Straws in the ocean were dumped there by careless people. Since you care about the environment, there's no way you're using a paper straw so you can continue dropping it into the stormwater drain without the problems that you used to cause when you dropped plastic straws into the drain. The very people who choose paper straws are the ones that can't make any difference because they weren't the problem in the first place.

Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by dkdk8283 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @04:09PM (#22437906)
I absolutely can think it’s ok. I purchase and properly dispose of single use plastic items. Nothing wrong with that.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by jgwil2 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:47PM (#22436368)
Where exactly were plastic straws "banned?" As far as I know, the ban was on providing them without their being specifically requested.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by gamblor956 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @03:03PM (#22437198)
Santa Monica also has a complete ban on plastic straws, and LA City has a ban on providing them to dine-in customers unless specifically requested (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-plastic-straws-...). LA County has a similar rule but allows for the business to ask the customer if they want a plastic straw.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by SllX on Thursday February 27, 2020 @02:20PM (#22436767)
San Francisco. Non-plastic straws only (so paper or even bamboo is fine), although there are a few businesses trying to work through their existing plastic stock on the down low.
Re:The war on food waste is a waste of time by downerending on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:27PM (#22436132)
It's not just useless. At least one person has already been killed by a reusable straw. (Fell on metal one while using.)