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Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by rgovostes on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @10:37AM (#22423882)
According to the documentary "Merchants of Doubt," there were modifications that could be made to cigarette design to reduce the likelihood of causing a fire, but the companies resisted changing their products.
Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by klyrs on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @10:57AM (#22424096)
Do you remember what modifications were on the table? Kinda seems like a cigarette is a punk (in the pyrotechnic sense)... I'm having trouble seeing anything that would be effective without being annoying enough for people to work around.
Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by namdnay on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @11:26AM (#22424418)
By changing the formula for the paper, you can have a cigarette that will go out if you don't drag on it for 30-60s, just like a hand-rolled. But obviously that's bad for business..
Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by furgooswft13 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @12:41PM (#22425253)
> have a cigarette that will go out if you don't drag on it for 30-60s

Have you smoked a cigarette recently (as in at least the past 10 years)?. This is absolutely what they do. I'm not sure what the exact flame out time is for any particular brand, but it's a real drag (ahem) for people who like to smoke slowly, as the first re-lit hit feels very harsh.

According to Wikipedia[1] fire-safe cigarettes are required in all 50 states as of 2011. It's been awhile since I've smoked but I remember me and my friends bitching about the fire safe paper many years before that. We also theorized that it was making the cig more harsh in general. Of course we never had any evidence of this.

I might be wrong about this, but it seems to me that simple paper + tobacco hand rolled cigs natural behavior would be to not flame out, or do so much more slowly. What's stopping it from continuing to burn?

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_safe_cigarette#United_Sta...

Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by namdnay on Thursday February 27, 2020 @03:43AM (#22431687)
Indeed I haven't smoked for a long long time. It seems that they were implemented end of 2011 in the EU

For hand rolled I'm not sure, I just remember that they would go out much easier, whatever is rolled inside of them

Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by kick on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:15PM (#22426208)
The US is not the UK.
Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by dfox on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:57PM (#22426675)
But it still is/was/whatever in EU, where the self extinguishing cigarettes are also mandatory.
Re:Toxic sofas are a secret scandal by dx034 on Thursday February 27, 2020 @01:27AM (#22431092)
I believe that's mandated now in the EU. Cigarettes will stop burning if left alone for a few minutes. Very annoying for inattentive smokers. But I'm not sure how much of an effect that had on fires.