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Re:In Britain, even jails have a class system by wpietri on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @01:26PM (#22415723)
I deeply disagree that "much of human government through most of human history" is an edge case. I do agree that families are somewhat naturally hierarchical, and that can be good. However, there are plenty of examples of that being taken too far. I disagree that teaching and learning can only be accomplished through hierarchy, although that's certainly the common mode in industrial education.

So it's as I said: we have to look at our natural heritage and decide which parts are good. Natural does not equal good.

Re:In Britain, even jails have a class system by jumpman500 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:01PM (#22417955)
I think I misread the comment I was responding too.

I was more trying to say hierarchies are not always wrong, but I realize now that's not exactly what he was claiming. You're right they're often abused and should always be challenged. Nothing about nature is good or evil it just is.

Re:In Britain, even jails have a class system by wpietri on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @07:18PM (#22419026)
Thanks for saying so.