Re:In Britain, even jails have a class system
by jumpman500 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @01:13PM
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You're just thinking about one edge case. Any child is born into a hierarchy if they have a guardian of any sort. If you want to learn from a teacher you have to enter into a student teacher hierarchy. Any engagement with other human beings results in a formation of some kind of hierarchy. We all have different minds, bodies and skills that lead to different natural hierarchies.
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Re:In Britain, even jails have a class system
by wpietri on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @01:26PM
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I deeply disagree that "much of human government through most of human history" is an edge case. I do agree that families are somewhat naturally hierarchical, and that can be good. However, there are plenty of examples of that being taken too far. I disagree that teaching and learning can only be accomplished through hierarchy, although that's certainly the common mode in industrial education.
So it's as I said: we have to look at our natural heritage and decide which parts are good. Natural does not equal good.
Re:In Britain, even jails have a class system
by jumpman500 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:01PM
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I think I misread the comment I was responding too.
I was more trying to say hierarchies are not always wrong, but I realize now that's not exactly what he was claiming. You're right they're often abused and should always be challenged. Nothing about nature is good or evil it just is.