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Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by black_puppydog on Saturday February 22, 2020 @06:00AM (#22390385)
1. If the new hire is worth 10% more, then the employer will be able to justify that. "He's got much more experience than you" or such. Put differently: you can only offer those extra 10% if you can actually justify it in a way that others agree with you. Might actually turn out to be a rationality corrective so to say.

2. If you don't want people to job-hop because they see what some new hire earns, then you're either overpaying the new one (and unnecessarily alienating your workers) or you're underpaying the current employees, and you should raise their salary or expect them to hop.

Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by ChuckNorris89 on Saturday February 22, 2020 @06:07AM (#22390402)
1. Worth is relative. You can't know the performance of someone you've just interviewed for an hour to someone who's been working there for years. The new guy might just be good at whiteboarding and negotiating but could be a mediocre employee at best on your codebase. When you get a job your pay isn't dictated by your "worth", whatever that is, but by current market conditions.

2. That's how it should be in an ideal world but the reality is different and companies know through years of experience that the current system works better for them rather than the one you'd want.

Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by madeofpalk on Saturday February 22, 2020 @06:16AM (#22390435)
> Worth is relative. You can't know the performance of someone you've just interviewed for an hour to someone who's been working there for years

Supposedly you can because you're offering them 10% more than the rest of your employees...

Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by ChuckNorris89 on Saturday February 22, 2020 @06:46AM (#22390532)
Like I said previously, you're offering them 10% more because of market conditions(you need some fresh meat on your project ASAP), not because of their (yet unknown) performance, and hedge your bets that the ones already working for you won't find out(here salaries are confidential) or are to tied down to be looking for new jobs so soon.

I hate this approach, but for most companies in Europe it's the reality that works in their favor.

Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by yibg on Saturday February 22, 2020 @03:33PM (#22393162)
Lots of reasons view points could be different:

- Worth is subjective. I'm sure we've all had conversations about someone where some view the person as great and others view the same person as meh or under performing. Value is also determined based on information, which usually people don't have the same amount of. So very possible the hiring person or committee sees different value in a person than fellow engineers or teammates.

- Value judgement, especially for hiring is also point in time. Could very well be the person as presented during interview is a rockstar, but after landing on the team doesn't perform well for whatever reason.

Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by AmericanChopper on Saturday February 22, 2020 @06:44AM (#22390523)
> If the new hire is worth 10% more, then the employer will be able to justify that.

If you have established salary bands, then you cannot justify offering somebody something outside of that range. That defeats the entire purpose of having salary bands to begin with, and not complying with them would be lying to your employees. What salary bands are, is a levelling mechanism. The answer to “why does x get paid more than me?” should be “because for some particular reason we decided x was worth more to us than you”. With the levelling mechanism, you have less options for paying people what they’re worth, instead you simply decide that everybody will get paid +/- a few % of whatever the average value of an employee in that role is, regardless of their contribution.

Re:Breaking the Salary Sharing Taboo by sokoloff on Saturday February 22, 2020 @07:45AM (#22390722)
If those bands are more narrow than the distribution of talent/contribution at any given level, then you’re very likely to shut yourself out from the top contributors. In my experience, bands are always vastly more narrow.