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Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by wmf on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @01:27PM (#22368421)
Half the technology in JPEG XL is from Google but hopefully people won't get petty about that.

A bigger problem is that various companies just did a lot of work to adopt HEIF so they're not going to be eager to churn onto JPEG XL. Generally people wait 5-10 years before they're open to upgrading.

Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by jonsneyers on Thursday February 20, 2020 @03:37AM (#22373625)
HEIF has a few problems though that make it not very suitable to replace JPEG as the default image format:

- Patent situation. If you're a camera or phone maker, it is quite a risk to use HEIF. Even if you pay all the major patent pools, you only cover part of the patent claims. You'll need dedicated hardware, so once you've produced the devices, the patent trolls have quite some power since you can't just switch to another codec with a software update.

- The codec is not optimized for high-quality still images – it's a video codec, and has its sweet spot in the lower bitrate regions. Photographers care about subtle texture, high bit depth, etc.

- There's no progressive decoding – again, it's a video codec, where progressive decode of a single frame is not useful, but for still images on the web, progressive can be a desirable option.

Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by ksec on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @05:18PM (#22370708)
>Half the technology in JPEG XL is from Google

Yes but it is submitted as an open standard to an Organisation that doesn't run or belong to Google.

Is HEIF used anywhere other than on Apple devices?

Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by edw on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @06:49PM (#22371401)
Canon, Android.
Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by zamadatix on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @08:16PM (#22371909)
Windows 10 has support as well.
Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by ksec on Thursday February 20, 2020 @08:23AM (#22374872)
Both Android and Windows does not support HEIF by default.
Re:JPEG Committee releases a call for evidence for image com... by eln1 on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @04:21PM (#22370212)