Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by lentil_soup on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:35PM (#22272745)

I don't understand. I don't want my start menu to search my files or the internet or be smart in any way, I just want it to show my installed programs or apps or whatever you want to call them. If I want to search my files I have a program for that, if I want to search the internet I open my browser. Why do we have to over complicate things! Who asked for this?

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by blondin on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:08PM (#22272930)

they failed to find a good place for that search, but the feature, itself, is extremely valuable.

on the mac, for example, spotlight search is part of things i do on autopilot. that's how they should have presented that search functionality. a keyboard shortcut, big search field in the middle of the screen... cortana shouldn't have been the front focus here...

i still use it though. would be sad to see it go! i use it to see where stuff and settings that were obvious and easy to find before are now hidden.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by orev on Friday February 07, 2020 @10:06PM (#22273528)

Sounds like Launchy

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by porker on Saturday February 08, 2020 @02:49AM (#22274577)

I still use Launchy on Windows 10, alongside the native search. The plugins Launchy has like for Putty integration make it invaluable.

It's a shame it's no longer developed.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by 1wd on Saturday February 08, 2020 @02:56AM (#22274605)

Have you tried Wox? https://github.com/Wox-launcher/Wox

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by porker on Saturday February 08, 2020 @03:39AM (#22274735)

Hadn't heard of it until now, taking a look. Thanks.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by lsd5you on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:42PM (#22272781)

Likely a rhetorical question, but they're trying trying to become the place where people go to look for things ... since apparently there is a massive amount of value (at least enough to risk the windows user experience) in controlling that entry point into search.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by Ididntdothis on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:54PM (#22272849)

I would be ok if it did things in a predictable and configurable way. But it sometimes feels almost random.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by agumonkey on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:01PM (#22272881)

At this point.. I think it's fair to call it a MS tradition. I don't think I ever recall searching in windows to be useful out of the box (or even after tweaking).

Compare this to stuff like Everything..

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by cosmiccatnap on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:04PM (#22272905)

Advertisers and government agencies ask for this...

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by r00fus on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:45PM (#22272797)

The same reason IE was integrated into the OS in 1998. To embrace, extend & extinguish.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by colejohnson66 on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:47PM (#22272803)

What are they embracing so they can extinguish in this instance?

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by dntbnmpls on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:55PM (#22272855)

The IE integration with Windows was to extinguish Netscape Navigator. So I'm guessing this move is probably to destroy chrome and indirectly google search.

Microsoft used their OS monopoly to destroy Netscape. Not sure if it will work today since they don't dominate the smartphone space.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by xkemp on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:45PM (#22273140)

Or, maybe, document/file search is a pretty useful and commonly expected feature for a desktop operating system? And extending it to online search is an entirely natural next step?

Even if this were a plot against Google, it would simply be bog-standard competition. It has absolutely none of the characteristics of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by catcalendar on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:01PM (#22273210)

I can't believe you'd suggest something as rediculous as users wanting a unified search bar that just gives them what they want regardless of context. History has shown time and time again that users like diversity and would prefer a solution that they can tailor together in a piecemeal fashion after trying all their options.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by Santosh83 on Saturday February 08, 2020 @10:11AM (#22276093)

This is some high grade sarcasm!

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by katbyte on Friday February 07, 2020 @11:19PM (#22273842)

i don't believe you describe the average computer user.

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Re:Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure by coribuci on Saturday February 08, 2020 @06:38AM (#22275259)

> What are they embracing so they can extinguish in this instance?

Firefox, linux, open source. It's really funny how a lot of open source projects are hosted in github.

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