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Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by legitster on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:02PM (#22270245)
I'm disappointed by the typical Hacker News folks complaining about the presentation format. This isn't the target demographic, and I applaud trying different approaches to convey the seriousness of these issues. The kinds of people who just want a spreadsheet and a PDF report are already bought in on the ideas.

While I find the format a bit cinematic for my taste, I can't help but respect their efforts to drive home the tangible effects of global warming in an emotional way.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by 01100011 on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:49PM (#22270757)
Well, this is hacker news. Expect us to complain as hacker news commenters would. Our complaints don't hurt the original article. We're just discussing how we feel about it. It was posted here and it's fair to debate how it relates to us even if we weren't the target audience
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by prostheticvamp on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:08PM (#22270319)
I find the UX undermines the credibility journalists are usually given, earned or not. This looks like a story, or a propaganda piece.

I wouldn’t be the first to point out that the medium is the message.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by paulintrognon on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:14PM (#22270387)
There age tons of factual articles about climate change. Though it does not interest many people.

Kudos for those guys for trying to tell the story differently in a hope to reach a broader audience.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by Sharlin on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:27PM (#22270540)
Well, it is a story. Obviously the medium is designed to engage readers. This is not a scientific paper.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by ako on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:41PM (#22270682)
Seeing is believing, i think the UX with tons of pictures actually help the credibility and impact of the story.

I think they choose the right medium for the message.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by admiral33 on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:46PM (#22270737)
I agree, this is more of a slideshow than an article, and I don't think having it as an article with pictures would make it more plausible. The pictures tie in neatly with the content in a way that doesn't annoy me as much as other similar experiences have.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by IOT_Apprentice on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:03PM (#22271515)
It is told as a story, to engage the reader. It is very well presented. Perhaps you can do better, are you a journalist or a UX designer?
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by enraged_camel on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:36PM (#22270623)
Journalists are usually not the ones who make UX decisions.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by AlephGarden on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:55PM (#22270829)
I get that, but I'm not even viewing the website because it nearly crashed my computer.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by jtms on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:22PM (#22271099)
We are a bunch of extremely aggressive, highly intelligent gadflies and that’s the way we like it
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by yibg on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:50PM (#22271387)
There are very few submissions that doesn’t have someone complain about something. HN crowd tend to be critical. Might be harsh sometimes but not necessarily a bad thing. If you want your ideas poked full of holes, submit it here.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by twblalock on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:30PM (#22270564)
Complaining about presentation formats, including the colors or fonts or use of scripts on linked articles, ought to be against the guidelines: it doesn't contribute to discussion about the content of the linked article and devolves into bickering.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by s1artibartfast on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:08PM (#22270970)
Why is the content a more appropriate topic than the format?

This is a tech forum, not a climate news forum.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by dang on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:56PM (#22271445)
Hacker News is not a "tech forum"; please see the first paragraph of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by s1artibartfast on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:35PM (#22271872)
Hi Dang,

I wasn't suggesting that all topics must focus on tech, but that the majority of Hacker News users come from tech, and may therefore have an interest in the technical presentation of the submission.

My apologies if this was not clear.

I think that if users find technical aspects of an article a more interesting topic of discussion than the content, they should be free to discuss it in this forum.

I do not think that the guidelines should be updated to prohibit "off topic" criticism, as the parent comment suggested.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by legitster on Friday February 07, 2020 @03:42PM (#22270693)
This is being downvoted but, barring certain circumstances, I think I agree. There's an irony in a discussion about climate change going way off topic.
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by lopmotr on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:02PM (#22270904)
But what is the seriousness of these issues?

We're inundated with articles pointing out small unimportant changes and unquantified waffle about serious future changes. But never any actual predictions of global disaster. What's the expected cost in money or lives? Nobody has a clue beyond "catastrophe", whatever that means. I saw one estimate for the economic cost to Canada but it was so low that the citizens could actually just pay it as an additional tax and carry on with life hardly affected at all. Alarmists were actually critical of that data being published because they were afraid it might support people's belief that it's not very serious. Maybe because it's not?

So if you're going to say global warming is serious, can you also quantify what you mean? Otherwise you're only conveying your personal subjective feeling.

Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by IOT_Apprentice on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:06PM (#22271550)
There are actual costs mentioned in the site, which leads me to believe you have not gone through the entire presentation. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter by SlowRobotAhead on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:47PM (#22271341)
> Otherwise you're only conveying your personal subjective feeling.

Well that can’t be right; it would turn the entire topic of climate change on its head.