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Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by zymhan on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:12AM (#22266057)
Oh come now, you surely understand that you cannot just drop in a Windows or Linux PC as a replacement for a Mac, just like you couldn't do the opposite. Organizations have management tools, single sign on, and software that may only run on one OS.

Suggesting a ThinkPad or Dell as a replacement is naive.

If an organization wants to change the computers it gives it's employees so dramatically, it will take some transition time, and a lot of fighting. We're not just talking about your personal laptop here.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by krn on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:15AM (#22266090)
What you are saying is, that no matter how much one company keeps failing, they will never leave its ecosystem. What I am saying, is that it's never too late to begin considering it.
Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by zymhan on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:16AM (#22266098)
I literally said they can switch, but it is not easy and takes effort. You're assuming a lot by saying they haven't even considered it.

And more relevant to this post, Apple still sold people a multi-thousand dollar device, and those people are entitled to question why the device doesn't perform as expected.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by krn on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:22AM (#22266142)
My point was, that we now have a long enough history of Apple's hardware failures, delayed admissions, and constrained repairability.

Instead of pretending to be surprised by another of Apple's non-reactions, they should use this as an opportunity to reconsider the whole picture.

At least, if Dell starts sucking, they can switch to HP or Lenovo, and the other way around. If Apple stars sucking, they have no other option but to keep complaining online.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by ksec on Friday February 07, 2020 @10:01AM (#22266574)
>My point was, that we have now a long enough history of Apple's hardware failures, delayed admissions, and constrained repairability.

Because despite all of its problems, sadly Apple's product is still very often the best on the market.

You sort of wish Microsoft to do better, both hardware and Software, along with HP and Dell. But the market is polarised with one group who dont care or understand quality, or another group who demands absolute perfection and are willing to pay for it.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by fortran77 on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:40AM (#22266354)
I switched from Mac to Windows 10 and it was painless.
Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by ac4tw on Friday February 07, 2020 @10:43AM (#22267026)
I'm curious about how long you were using Mac and how much of the ecosystem you were taking advantage of. Specifically were you using Apple messaging, photos, and / or email?

Also, did you take advantage of handoff or airdrop?

I imagine if you were strictly using cloud services, it was a relatively painless transition.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by zymhan on Friday February 07, 2020 @11:29AM (#22267606)
Again, we're talking about a company with likely dozens of Macs, at least, and the IT dept that has to support that change.

How on earth does your personal experience compare to any of that? You don't even cite what made it easy.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by marriedWpt on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:27AM (#22266206)
Why can't you? Compiling iOS apps?

Otherwise anything an Apple product can do, a competitor does cheaper and better.

Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by psychometry on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:44AM (#22266388)
Cheaper? Yes. Better? Not generally.
Re:MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019) by speedgoose on Friday February 07, 2020 @10:37AM (#22266951)
It really depends. Some people want good gaming performances, an easy to upgrade or fix laptop, or simply a touch screen.