If even a fraction of what is alleged about Epstein's schemes is true then whoever has her can obtain the kind of dirt that multi-billion dollar intelligence agencies can only dream of.
As another commenters said she is probably in Israel. By virtue of connections and it having a very big stake in not pissing off the US too much she is unlikely to get the $5 wrench treatment there.
The Clintons are 100% involved though.
If I had to guess, Pizzagate was somehow linked to Epstein's associates. I'm a little more certain of QAnon. I think that one is the GRU (what Russia calls the KGB now).
To me it feels like the "Israeli operative" scenario seems pretty legit.
Even more fun? You know who owns that yacht now? DJT.
Any reference on that?
Coming from someone who hates conspiracy
theories, I think this one isn't too far fetched.
Typically I don't believe conspiracy theories, on the simple grounds that large numbers of people can't keep secrets very well.
The Epstein thing kind of has that answer built in.
A rich guy became "untouchable" by throwing sex parties and gathering blackmail material on important people. That's pretty much the easiest thing in the world to believe. At some point it becomes a self-perpetuating thing. Nobody wants to investigate him because it's a potential career-ruiner.
And keep in mind that he didn't need direct evidence on you. You just need to attend one of his parties where bad things went down. Let's say he's got video evidence of Famous Persons A, B, and C doing something at the party that happened on a specific night. You were at the party too, but like 47 out of the 50 guests you did nothing wrong and had no idea wrongdoing was happening. Well, now you're scared too. Maybe Epstein directly threatens you. Puts you in the little black book or whatever. Or maybe not. Some underage teenager was being victimized, and you were there, and now you have a strong incentive to hope the whole thing blows over because you're terrified of being painted as an abuser even though you were just there for the free shrimp and cocktails.
To me, it seems like the kind of thing anybody with sufficient money could pull off. It's not exactly news that donating fat sums of money to various institutions gets you prestige and access to lots of influential people.
I don't have an opinion on the Mossad stuff one way or another. Seems plausible but as for a guess on the likelihood it's way over my pay grade.
I don't know anything about Mossad. But I do know that sexual blackmail was a key tool of the KGB. Along with simple greed, of course.
This is incredible.
The simplest explanation here, if you’re trying to include outside interference, is that a patient on suicide watch was intentionally allowed conditions in which he could finish the job.
Why hang him when you can intentionally botch the surveillance and he’ll hang himself for you? Much cleaner.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/jeffrey-epstein-friend-ghisl...
Next step is setup private offshore trust/fund with new identity being the beneficiary. money problem solved.
Ideally have all of the "new identity" paper work done well before it is needed: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jeffrey-...
You need either the law or a credible threat of retaliation to protect large assets. The former requires identity and a trail of evidence of ownership, not to mention reliable law enforcement; the latter requires reputation, which requires identity and a trail of evidence of retaliation. And except for industrial countries with a strong rule of law (i.e. the places you're probably trying to flee), both the law and the jungle require regular payments in cash, favors, or blood, commensurate with the assets you're trying to protect, to maintain the state of things. Not only can that quickly diminish your wealth, you're creating an ever larger footprint.
Is it possible? Theoretically, just like in the movies. But it's not easy. And it's not easy to pivot from an ultra rich, jet setting, flamboyant con-man to an anonymous nobody. It's worth noting that your link proves my point--his fake identity was readily discovered with a routine search warrant and home inspection. Epstein wasn't willing to give up the comforts of his public persona and the convenience of switching between his identities. And he clearly wasn't willing to flee before he got caught, which is something of a prerequisite.
Having some money is a good start. You can buy a bar or a hostel in some far flung part of the world where nobody asks questions, and hopefully you can coast for several decades. Maybe you can hide just enough gold and currency to maintain a comfortable life without drawing attention; enough to match the flow of retirement benefits (Social Security, etc), which can often be drawn down regardless of residency and are a common source of income for older expats. Otherwise, it's just mo' money, mo' problems.
On the other hand, it's rare for authorities to care enough to hunt someone down to the ends of the earth. But I assume the context here is a motivated intelligence agency or similarly resourceful and persistent organization (e.g. DoJ no longer able to turn a blind eye). Either way, though, the easiest way to hunt someone down is to follow the money.
Sources: Movies. Education. Traveling and meeting "interesting" expats from various countries fleeing everything you'd expect (wives, taxes, poverty, etc) except prosecution for heinous crimes, if their stories are to be believed.
It doesn't change mine. The government is notorious for being corrupt and inefficient.
I hear this and it makes me horrified of the thought of government takeover of a sector.
Thalidomide, 737 max, Enron...
Meanwhile tons of public sectors run silently but smoothly and are taken for granted.
Your argument to demonize the public sector is ill considered, cliched, simple minded, and one sided.
So is the private sector. Excellence is rare. Such is life, welcome to earth.
Usually due to government intervention.
Corrupt and bloated businesses also "live until they collapse". I trust in democracy more than markets.
I don't. People vote against their best interests all the time. The SF housing market is self-inflicted from people voting against new housing, because many of them don't understand the concept of supply and demand.
Neither markets nor democracy are perfect, but at least free markets are efficient.
Or they understand supply and demand perfectly well, and figured out that if they legislatively block new development, fixed supply + growing demand = rising home prices = better investment.
Markets (free and otherwise) work against people's best interests all the time as well, in which case their efficiency is not a virtue.
Big ol' citation needed there
It seems strongly that former requires the latter. Without markets you have a totalitarian state. And black markets. Everyone everywhere wants and needs to trade, for themselves and their families.
The idea of genuine democracy is the loyal opposition. You dochange the government, regularly, without collapsing everything into anarchy.
Endemic corruption will lead to systemic collapse. This makes it worthwhile to vote the best corruption reform candidates regardless of ideology or party.
Democrats have voted Trump, Republicans support Bernie on that basis. It's not completely silly.
People do bad things and we've been trying to fix our selves for a long time now.
We need to take personal responsibility for our own actions, and be honest and transparent, ready to accept the repercussions for what we have done. I'm speaking directly to individuals involved here, but I'm also speaking for and to all of us.
It's scary to come out about how fucked up we are, but it's how to heal.
We need to stand up and openly repent when we have done wrong. We need to stop defending and hiding our own evil.
One example, despite all that has come up in the this case, and the number of times Ghislaine Maxwell's name has been brought up, there is no word of her whereabouts. Unless we think she is some Jason Bourne level expert that can just make herself disappear, I can think of only three explanations -
1) The law enforcement agencies are choosing not to find her and track her down for some reason. 2) She is being kept hidden (willingly or unwillingly) by someone else who has the means and ability to do so. 3) She is already dead and her body will turn up at some point.
The thought there could be such types of 'cover ups' in the western democratic world is very scary. I was always certain this stuff only happened in the movies, now I am not as sure about that.