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Re:McKinsey, technocratic management, and structural inequality by manigandham on Monday February 03, 2020 @11:18PM (#22232352)
The vast majority of CEO positions are nowhere near the 8/9 figure ranges. The ones that are involve making decisions that affect thousands or millions of employees and their families, numerous vendors and suppliers, entire secondary industries, along with hundreds of billions of dollars in business value.

In that case, the pay is a tiny fraction of company earnings to get talent that's capable and willing to shoulder that responsibility and also accept any potential long-term reputation hits.

Companies aren't looking to waste money. If they could find a magical CEO at 1/10th of the price, they would. There's a reason those jobs are worth that much.

Re:McKinsey, technocratic management, and structural inequality by unlinked_dll on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @12:28AM (#22232703)
I mean there are reasons. The debate is if they're good reasons and what impact they have on the rest of the company and society as a whole.

Looking at medians and averages isn't the same thing as looking at extrema, and discarding those extrema is harmful to the data set when you can try and infer things about those extremes and how they impact the data set. Every person working on data eventually has to deal with this.

When it comes to executive compensation the question isn't if it's a market reality or not. It obviously is. The question is if those market realities are beneficial to everyone else impacted by the market, and many would argue otherwise. Yes, golden parachutes and lucrative salaries/equity options are par for the course for fortune 1k companies. But how do those packages influence incentives? Are they encouraging, even creating positive feedback loops for short term incentives that cause inefficiencies in our companies? Are they a symptom or source of greater issues relating to long term health of our labor markets for average workers?

I don't know, but it's worth investigation.

Re:McKinsey, technocratic management, and structural inequality by manigandham on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @01:08AM (#22232874)
The extrema includes the size and scope of the company that pays those salaries, so you need to take that into account.

It's generally agreed that more performance-based pay with long-term goals and clawbacks on excessive failures, negligence and unethical acts is the way to go, and most companies are already shifting to this.

Re:McKinsey, technocratic management, and structural inequality by badpun on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @05:24AM (#22234081)
> Companies aren't looking to waste money. If they could find a magical CEO at 1/10th of the price, they would. There's a reason those jobs are worth that much.

I'm not so sure about this. The CEO is selected by the board members, which don't have an interest in debunking the myth that CEOs need to make obscene amounts of money. These guys can often get CEO jobs themselves later in life, and if they propagate ideas that deflate CEO salaries, they're harming their future self.

In other words, the high-end executives (incl. board members) form an aristocracy of sorts and they protect their interests as a class.

Re:McKinsey, technocratic management, and structural inequality by manigandham on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @11:02AM (#22237091)
How is that different than all of the software engineers and other professions talking about being paid what you're worth?

I don't see any complaints about all those FAANG developers with extreme salaries that have skewed entire housing markets. Should they be limited from negotiating a rate that the company is willing to pay?