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Re:Britain knows it’s selling out its national security to H... by carlmr on Saturday February 01, 2020 @12:20PM (#22211664)
I can stream Netflix on my 25mbit/s. For personal use I absolutely don't care about 5G. For professional use it might give me better picture quality when I remote into work, but I think my work's VPN server is more of a bottleneck currently.
Re:Britain knows it’s selling out its national security to H... by Reason077 on Saturday February 01, 2020 @12:58PM (#22211969)
> ”I can stream Netflix on my 25mbit/s. For personal use I absolutely don't care about 5G.”

I can stream at 25 Mbps just fine on 4G+/LTE too. At off-peak times. I’ve even seen it hit 70, 80, 90 Mbps occasionally.

The problem happens at peak times, usually starting around 6pm, when the network slows to a crawl and I can’t stream things reliably despite having 5/5 signal strength, because my carrier (Three UK) has sold too many cheap unlimited data plans and their 4G network is highly congested.

5G is needed because it greatly improves the data carrying capacity of given blocks of spectrum, meaning more users and higher speeds in areas that currently suffer capacity constraints.

And honestly, 5G’s 200 Mbit+ speeds would just be nice to have to speed up things like downloading multi-GB OS updates and the like.

Re:Britain knows it’s selling out its national security to H... by oarsinsync on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:14PM (#22212076)
That might be less to do with your carrier's cellular edge capacity (are you in a densely populated area with lots of people on the same cell station as you?) and more to do with your carrier's intenet edge capacity (3 has lots of customers using a lot of internet)

If it's the former, 5G helps you. If it's the latter, 5G makes zero difference to you.

Re:Britain knows it’s selling out its national security to H... by Reason077 on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:30PM (#22212210)
Yes, I can’t say for sure but I assume it’s the former. It’s certainly a dense area (Central London) and there are certainly many people around here with 3 unlimited data plans.

If I monitor my router’s status page I can see it start to bounce between several different Cell IDs when the congestion hits, and the SINR drops to low single digits (from 16-20dB when it’s fastest).

In any case, as I understand it, backhaul upgrades will be a part of 3’s 5G rollout anyway.

Re:Britain knows it’s selling out its national security to H... by baybal2 on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:12PM (#22212062)
I tried 5G in Shenzhen on a demo phone, still only 10 mb/s to Hongkong, but you can have 300mb/s to the nearest NX.

Unless your server sits right beside the cell tower, you will never see that promised 1gb/s

Re:Britain knows it’s selling out its national security to H... by kalleboo on Saturday February 01, 2020 @09:53PM (#22214846)
Is that much of an improvement on 4G? I often see 250 mbps on LTE during off-peak hours