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Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by Swizec on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:39PM (#22196664)
I remember using some car’s built-in GPS once and it wanted me to take every freeway exit and get right back on after. Because it decided that saves time/distance.

Maps really need a “not worth it” features for tiny optimizations. I’d often prefer a slightly slower route that’s less work to drive.

Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by K0SM0S on Thursday January 30, 2020 @06:00PM (#22196894)
Oh please YES, the "not worth it", followed by an option to "please take me back to previous path before (because) latest fork = mistake". The very idea of judging the overall travel is a good start (at the end, when they prompt you) but individual datapoints should be reportable as well. I'm pretty sure this would massively help build a dataset with "annotated" cases (good / bad) for RNNs.

> I’d often prefer a slightly slower route that’s less work to drive.

Me too, and I suspect most people — like, when is it ever a good option to avoid a free highway to save 1 minute when the driving is twice or more fatiguing? Are we bodyless machines or animals with a concept for "tired" and "attention"? This is where I feel recent evolutions in DL have been, perhaps, more for the benefit of developers and researchers (efficiency), and maybe not for real human benefits on the user side.

I don't claim the problem is easy, but I know second-hand that what users want and what AI projects solve for may be two very different X.

Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by johnmaguire2013 on Friday January 31, 2020 @02:00AM (#22199704)
> please take me back to previous path before (because) latest fork = mistake

Seriously. I regularly travel from Ohio to Michigan and back, and often times if I take an exit for gas, Google Maps will assume I want to take an obscure country backroad for the final 2 hours rather than get back on the highway.

I absolutely do not want to worry about deer, a lack of gas stations, food, and light.

Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by sjwright on Friday January 31, 2020 @02:07AM (#22199735)
This is especially true in the UK where most rural roads are nominally 60 MPH even if they’re barely wide enough for two cars.
Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by Smoosh on Thursday January 30, 2020 @07:52PM (#22197824)
Another possible option to make navigation more human-friendly would be "keep route simple" - so minimize the number of turns, complex intersections, road works (even without delays), backstreets etc, even at the cost of a few minutes extra travel time or extra distance.
Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by codyb on Thursday January 30, 2020 @06:47PM (#22197303)
My Mom doesn’t even use a cellphone, much less map directions. But she always is amazed at the directions given because she’ll pull out a map and do something with 3 turns what’ll have 20 turns on the map direction.

She’s certainly not wrong that from a UX perspective, simple can be really nice, especially if you’re driving on crowded roads and want to focus on driving.

Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by manicpolymath on Thursday January 30, 2020 @06:36PM (#22197214)
> I remember using some car’s built-in GPS once and it wanted me to take every freeway exit and get right back on after. Because it decided that saves time/distance.

It feels like cheating to the other drivers who didn’t take the “short cut” and leads to delays all around due to the extra merging going on. (exhibit A: I-85N vs. I-285 in Atlanta, aka Spaghetti Junction)

Re:Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the Uni... by scarface74 on Thursday January 30, 2020 @10:47PM (#22198846)
I live in Atlanta. I’m curious what do you mean?