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Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by Gravityloss on Thursday January 30, 2020 @04:32AM (#22190097)
Is testing fast now? Do patients who don't have symptoms spread it effectively?

I'm not an expert, but I see two main possibilities: It can be contained. Or it will spread all around the world and only vaccines will later make it go away, if a large enough percentage of the population is vaccinated. How long does it take to create a vaccine nowadays? And mass production...

Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by eugenijusr on Thursday January 30, 2020 @04:53AM (#22190182)
Here's a Twitter thread from an expert with thoughts on what we'll need to do if it's not contained: https://twitter.com/t_inglesby/status/1221434570714669056
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by JohnJamesRambo on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:19AM (#22190314)
It’s so infuriating to try to read that great info in a million disjointed tweets. I don’t get Twitter character limits at all in the year 2020.
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by squarefoot on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:28AM (#22190351)
Probably it's just the wrong tool for this job.
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by mytailorisrich on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:23AM (#22190328)
It's so infuriating to see people using Twitter for what it's not, and also in this case for causing undue worry.
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by netsharc on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:41AM (#22190423)
I hate people using it as a freaking Powerpoint replacement... Bullet point after tedious bullet point, great job presenting your knowledge, Mr. Expert! /s
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by pferde on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:37AM (#22190403)
It's indeed sad, but apparently many people think "if it's good enough for the POTUS, it's good enough for me!"
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by radicalbyte on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:35AM (#22190389)
It's heartening to see the way that we're reacting to this threat.

We need to be doing exactly the same thing in the fight against climate change.

Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by avery-dawn on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:01AM (#22190221)
> How long does it take to create a vaccine nowadays?

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic...

From this article: “If the vaccine appears effective and safe in a number of animal species, it will go into clinical trials on humans. This takes at least one year even if expedited,” Yuen said.

Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by tim333 on Thursday January 30, 2020 @08:18AM (#22191098)
Inovio of San Diego already have a computer designed but untested DNA vaccine. In the past DNA vaccines have not been approved for use in humans but they are partnered with a Chinese company and I'm not sure the Chinese will be as conservative as the FDA in terms of trying things. [pasted from another thread]

Their previous Elboa vaccine seemed to work well in tests though I think it never made it to the field. http://ir.inovio.com/news-and-media/news/press-release-detai...

I sometime think the testing protocols are a bit over cautious when you have a candidate that is probably safe and quite likely effective.

Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by neuronic on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:19AM (#22190315)
Even fast-tracked development will take 1-2 years.

Edit: sorry, I basically repeated what the comment above said. Somehow I overlooked that...

Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by hanniabu on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:02AM (#22190233)
Is that including production? Or just getting approval?
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by pishpash on Thursday January 30, 2020 @04:57AM (#22190205)
The virus changes rapidly, not unlike the flu. A vaccine isn't likely to be effective to eradicate it, and it will likely stay around as a permanent epidemic like the flu or HIV. Virulence can increase or decrease randomly in the future, but the spread doesn't seem like it can be contained, since a perfect quarantine can't be maintained at this scale. We'll have to live with a new virus and pay the price of some natural selection.
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by DelightOne on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:04AM (#22190246)
Does immunity still hold for the changed virus?
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by jimworm on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:53AM (#22190472)
Depends whether the targeted antigen has changed. Best case (for humans) is if it couldn't escape the targeting without deactivating the virus.

RNA viruses do change quickly, but influenza's probably on a different level with its multi-segment, randomly assorted genome.

Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by sanxiyn on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:01AM (#22190222)
Polio also changes rapidly (it's faster than HIV), but we are nearing polio eradication with vaccine. Relationship between vaccine and mutation is complex.
Re:Japan confirms coronavirus infections without symptoms by hanniabu on Thursday January 30, 2020 @05:03AM (#22190243)
I didn't know it changed, let alone that fast. Really makes it all the more impressive.