Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by dmitriid on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:23AM
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I think it worked wonders with GDPR which exposed all this pus. Unfortunately, there EU has been too slow acting on it. Only British Airways has been slapped with a significant fine so far.
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Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by robin_reala on Thursday January 23, 2020 @06:56AM
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Marriott were fined £99m in the same week as BA in the UK, and Google were fined €50m in France last year, both under GDPR.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by dmitriid on Thursday January 23, 2020 @07:53AM
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Ah, I forgot about Marriott.
The problem with fines against Google (and Facebook, too) is that it's peanuts for them. They just factor this in the same category as "legal costs", and it never affects them even remotely.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by taurath on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:30AM
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GDPR opt out rate is well well under 1%.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by zwaps on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:38AM
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Cause at this stage opting out included navigating many stages of dark pattern and deceptive pages, including semi hidden links and fake slow progress bars. Even on the biggest sites.
If, and I say If, these gangsters ever get hit with major fines, and we get the simple yes/no option that a few pages have, then it will be better.
Right now, the ad industry (or should i say Mafia) is trying to actively circumvent this legislation
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by kelnos on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:39AM
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What does that even mean? GDPR requires companies to request that people opt in to information gathering.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by martin_a on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:50AM
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And in reality, as long as no fear-mongering fines are handed out, companies will try to bypass it.
There would be ways to get control over this, but law is slow.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by leni536 on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:58AM
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I rarely see opt in GDPR popups, it's typically "accept tracking" or "more options...", the latter seemingly sending you down an infinite rabbit hole. Well, now that I think about it, this might count as opt in, but this is definitely a dark pattern.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by lokedhs on Thursday January 23, 2020 @03:04AM
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This is supposedly not allowed under the GDPR, but we're going to have to wait a while before this is actually tried in court.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by tyfon on Thursday January 23, 2020 @07:11AM
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It's not, the consumer advocate in Norway has already released one report on the subject [1, PDF]
Pushing all this through the legal system will take some time but the watchdogs in different countries are not sitting idle.
[1] https://fil.forbrukerradet.no/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/201...
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by mnw21cam on Thursday January 23, 2020 @06:41AM
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The other thing I often see is an "accept tracking" button, and a tiny "more options" link that just goes to a page explaining how to switch off cookies on your browser. I'm pretty sure that's not OK with GDPR as well.
Re:“This is why I use ad blockers and a pi-hole server”
by kevsim on Thursday January 23, 2020 @02:50AM
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IANAL, but this is not entirely true. Under GDPR data can be used by claiming "legitimate interest" [0]. In the case of legitimate interest, the user needs to opt-out rather than opt-in.
0: https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/key-concepts/legitimat...