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Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by NikolaNovak on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @06:48PM (#22123321)
Indeed. I love dogs too but happen to be allergic. As are a lot of us. Boggles my mind that this is just not even considered by either airlines or pet owners, when bringing them into closed-air-circulation system where we're trapped like sardines for many hours :<

I was seated next to a person with a small furry dog, who proceeded to tell me how hypoallergenic (marketing thing - no such thing) it was as I proceeded to sneeze and leek the entire flight :<

Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by maxcan on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @07:36PM (#22123655)
For what its worth, nothing about commercial airplanes is a "closed-air-circulation system". The air is continually refreshed from the outside at a rate of about 20 times per hour.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/34708785/ns/travel-travel_tips/t/a...

Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by kortilla on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @07:01PM (#22123418)
Airplanes aren’t closed-air circulation systems. Air is pulled in from the outside and heated before being injected into the cabin which releases air to the atmosphere directly through openings on the aircraft. You get more fresh are on airplane than you do in the airport you were sitting in before you boarded it.
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by paulryanrogers on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @07:09PM (#22123479)
IIRC it's 50% recycled to save money
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by maxcan on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @07:37PM (#22123661)
How would that save money?
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by sowbug on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @07:54PM (#22123772)
Probably the cost of heating -50°F air to cabin temperature.
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by sitharus on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:06PM (#22124161)
Heating isn't a problem, cooling is. Most aircraft use "bleed air" from the compressor on the engine. That air is extremely hot (>150°C), so it requires a lot of cooling. Aircraft air conditioners are known as "packs" or "air-cycle machines", as they don't use any refrigerant, just compression/expansion and heat exchange with the outside air. This is also why you can smell oil and jet fuel when the engines start.

Air isn't recycled in to this system because the cabin pressure is too low, but air already inside the cabin is circulated around to avoid it stagnating.

Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by Eikon on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:03PM (#22124149)
Wouldn't that be heated with waste engine heat?
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by JshWright on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:05PM (#22124156)
It's heated using waste heat from the engines (jet engines generate a lot of heat...)
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by azinman2 on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @06:54PM (#22123369)
I’m sure you could have asked to have been moved. Ironically they won’t serve peanuts if anyone is deadly allergic.
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by mcchew on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @06:56PM (#22123394)
Ironically? Peanut allergies tend to be leagues worse than pet allergies, not that the latter should be discounted completely.
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by pb7 on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:08PM (#22124168)
It's exceedingly rare for airlines to even have peanuts as an option for this reason (maybe never?). Do you remember any recent examples where they had them?
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by dawnerd on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:12PM (#22124195)
Fairly recently with southwest. Delta seems to have switched to almonds instead - which IMO are better.

You're lucky if you get any snacks though these days.

Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by pb7 on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @09:46PM (#22124368)
I fly relatively frequently across a wide array of airlines and even before this discussion noticed the stark absence of peanuts. I can even picture the red Southwest branded packet of pretzels as the “default classic” option. Hmm, interesting.

Edit: Can confirm, no more peanuts on Southwest either: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/09/southwest-airlines-is-gettin...

Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by dawnerd on Thursday January 23, 2020 @12:47AM (#22125156)
Weird, definitely got a pack of peanuts a couple months ago from SW. Wonder if they were just using up their stockpile then...
Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by joegahona on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @10:16PM (#22124516)
> You're lucky if you get any snacks though these days.

Or the snacks are pointless. On a recent delta flight they handed out baby carrots from a bag.

Re:U.S. to let airlines limit service animals on planes by azinman2 on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @10:38PM (#22124618)
I get nuts all the time on Alaska and I think American, but perhaps no peanuts.