A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting approved by AI

Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by drongoking on Saturday January 18, 2020 @11:57AM (#22085440)

Whenever I see AI used for something like this, right after thinking "our dystopia is here," I wonder how it could be gamed. An experienced interviewer can tell when they're being told what they want to hear; I suspect an AI could not. The AI ends up rewarding preparation and acting skills. And when you make too many hoops for people to jump through, eventually you find you're just selecting for those who are good at hoop-jumping.

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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by BickNowstrom on Saturday January 18, 2020 @07:11PM (#22088385)

Students in South-Korea have a strong prep culture, and are already trying to game these types of interviews. It is much harder than gaming skill-based tests ("Don’t force a smile with your lips, smile with your eyes.").

> The AI interview is too new, so job applicants don’t know what to prepare for and any preparations seem meaningless since the AI will read our faces if we make something up.

I strongly feel the market will work itself out: If AI interviews bias companies to hire hoop-jumping and actors, in half a decade, other, more traditional hiring companies will eat their lunch. If the AI interviews only deliver top notch candidates... it is working as intended, and who am I to complain about my own lack of prep or acting skills? Not like whiteboarding or being able to quickly think on your feet without access to StackOverflow is biased against me already, and companies who use these for hiring seem to be doing just fine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-artificial-int...

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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by randycupertino on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:10PM (#22085927)

I also think you're self-selecting for desperate people who couldn't get jobs elsewhere, as most in-demand candidates would not put up with this nonsense. I know when I was looking, anywhere that had one of those 100-question inane personality tests ("Would you rather lead a meeting, or go skydiving?") etc I would bow out of the application process.

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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by JMTQp8lwXL on Saturday January 18, 2020 @02:59PM (#22086713)

On the other hand, consider the position that had a 100-question personality test was never intended for a competitive candidate like you. It was intentionally crafted for the desperate job seeker who might take a lower wage.

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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by JMTQp8lwXL on Saturday January 18, 2020 @02:57PM (#22086702)

I don't see a meaningful distinguishment between AI-driven hoop-jumping and in-person. When whatever you're measuring before becomes publicly known, it immediately becomes useless -- anyone can optimize for it. Humans are equally as likely as AI to reward preparation and acting skills, especially since suffer from implicit bias.

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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by AlexCoventry on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:11PM (#22085933)

It sounds like so far this is only being used as a very coarse, first-pass filter. It'll definitely get gamed, though.

It would be cool if there was a website where applicants could upload their videos and the hiring outcomes, to provide data from which organization's hiring biases could be inferred.

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Re:A new obstacle to landing a job after college: getting ap... by dpau on Saturday January 18, 2020 @01:04PM (#22085889)

i wonder the same thing, it's an arms race, perhaps someone will release a counter-measure like the chinese meitu (http://global.meitu.com/) that is trained against these types of ai's..

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