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Re:Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where? by d1zzy on Friday January 17, 2020 @07:27PM (#22081183)
Agreed but one of the major reasons why residents are opposed to building/zoning residential IS a natural result of Prop 13. It's impressive how much of the past/current problems California is facing can be traced back to Prop 13.
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Re:Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where? by xyzzyz on Friday January 17, 2020 @07:32PM (#22081217)
Agreed but one of the major reasons why residents are opposed to building/zoning residential IS a natural result of Prop 13.

I live in Seattle, where the attitudes of residents and attitude to building are similar, but we have no Prop 13. How is it possible?

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Re:Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where? by asdff on Saturday January 18, 2020 @02:49AM (#22083048)
You still get the benefits of increased property values due to strangling supply in the face of demand. Only with prop 13 you stand to net even more money, and if your dad gave you the house he bought in '70 you are taxed like you have a little shitty 20k house in boise.
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Re:Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where? by andrewprock on Friday January 17, 2020 @07:56PM (#22081363)
Most variations of NIMBY-ism arise from a desire to preserve the status quo. That's exactly the kind of rationale that went into enacting Prop 13. The more valuable the status quo is, the more people will fight to maintain it.

Even if there is a bright future ahead, people will limit change. This is in large part because the benefits and costs of change are not uniformly distributed, and when people have a valuable status quo, change represents significant risk.

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Re:Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where? by dodobirdlord on Saturday January 18, 2020 @03:37AM (#22083212)
The attitudes may be in the same direction, but they are far less extreme and taken far less seriously by others. People complain but at the end of the day buildings actually get built in Seattle.
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