Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by Rapzid on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @03:11PM
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Kind of a shame.. There are a few areas where FireFox absolutely smokes Chrome. The way it reflows some heavy DOMs interactively is almost magical in comparison.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by mactunes on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:51PM
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Curious, what makes Chromium better in your opinion? I have probably just touched the surface of the dev tools on both and haven‘t used any features that I would be missing on either.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by dubcanada on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:59PM
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It's a blank browser, has barely any "Google" specific stuff in it ready to go. It is easy to develop for, doesn't require cross language compiling (rust/c++), builds fast, easy to understand how the different parts work (at least for a browser developer it should be), has documentation, is meant to be used to develop your own browser.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by withinboredom on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @03:29PM
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Are you sure Chromium builds fast? lol, it takes my laptop with 12 cores and 64gb of ram over an hour to compile from scratch, not counting the ~20gb of git history to download (I maintain an internal build at work).
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by dubcanada on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @03:51PM
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Well lol it is a rather complex piece of software, so maybe take that one back.
Firefox is comparable in that department.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by bzbarsky on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @04:21PM
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Having compiled both: it's not. On the same hardware, Firefox takes ~4x less time to compile than Chromium for me...
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by microcolonel on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @05:54PM
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Which platform were you compiling on, and when? It's been some years now, but Chromium used to build with MSVC on Windows.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by I_AM_A_SMURF on Thursday January 16, 2020 @12:09AM
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I worked on both, it's no comparison. Firefox builds in about 40min on my macbook pro, Chromium takes like 4 hours?
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by tim-- on Thursday January 16, 2020 @01:53AM
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I can't even get Chromium to build on my MacBook Pro, so there's that. (15-inch, 2018, 16GB RAM)
What magic are you using to be able to build Chromium?
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by I_AM_A_SMURF on Friday January 17, 2020 @10:43AM
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Limiting the threads as somebody elses said. For chromium no one really builds it on a laptop, everyone in my team used a build server or a 32 core monster desktop.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by microcolonel on Thursday January 16, 2020 @10:08AM
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AFAIK you'd need to limit the compiler threads, and hopefully the linker doesn't run out of memory. 16GiB of memory is really not enough.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by bzbarsky on Saturday January 18, 2020 @12:38AM
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Sometime in the last 6 months, on Mac and Linux both.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by duhi88 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @06:21PM
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Then they could have chosen WebKit.
I get the Electron reason...it just sucks.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by _bxg1 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:13PM
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I was just thinking, "Why isn't there an Electron for Firefox?"
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by kodablah on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:16PM
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They worked on it a bit [0] but it has been abandoned along with all the other embedding efforts over time. As someone who embeds Chromium (via CEF) only because it's easy, I would really appreciate (and have been shouting into the wind about) focus on the embeddability of Gecko.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by the8472 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @05:16PM
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Long before positron (and electron) there was XULrunner.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by giancarlostoro on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:33PM
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I have a feeling this might change once Firefox is either entirely written in Rust, or mostly written in Rust.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by _bxg1 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @03:01PM
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Why?
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview
by giancarlostoro on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @06:26PM
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A lot of legacy code is being removed. As this happens the codebase will be reworked with contributors in mind.
There is a reason why Electron, QT etc use Chromium.