Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midcareer, report says

Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by hardtke on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:18PM (#22056792)

Not true. A primary care physician at Kaiser makes a bit over $200K if they work full time AFAIK. Average American makes about $50K. Considering the 4 years of med school and 3 years of residency they are not overpaid. Specialists are the people making $500K+

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by shadow-banned on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:31PM (#22056932)

$50K is household income.

Average income is more like $32K.

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by MagnumOpus on Thursday January 16, 2020 @06:42AM (#22063621)

Median full-time individual income is $48,000. (Weekly earnings of $923 from [1] times 52.). The mean is even higher.

[1] https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t01.htm

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by James_Henry on Thursday January 16, 2020 @09:04AM (#22064565)

Median personal income in 2018 was estimated to be $33.7k (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N). And the BLS gives mean wages for family and general practitioner at $211,780 (https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.h...).

Also, while I don't know about the competitiveness of jobs in certain locations, rural states can have some of the higher mean wages for fam and gen practioners (https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes291062.htm).

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by conanbatt on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:17PM (#22056770)

Not that much. They have half a million dollar student loans; they pay thousands of dollars a month in malpractice. And doctoes are very overworked.

Its not that great of a profession.

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by vkou on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:50PM (#22057140)

Then where is all this money going? Why does my health insurance cost $10,000/person of coverage, on top of deductibles and co-pays?

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by fragmede on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:02PM (#22057284)

Administration, primarily.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/08061...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/22/the-real-reason-medical-care...

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:50PM (#22057744)

https://www.cms.gov/files/document/highlights.pdf

33% to hospitals

20% to physicians and clinical services

9% to retail prescription drugs

5% for other health, residential and personal care services

5% for nursing care facilities and continuing care retirement communities

4% for dental services

I can't find any clear answer to what proportion doctors earn themselves:

https://www.medicalbag.com/home/finance/health-care-costs-in...

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by sdinsn on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @07:10PM (#22060328)

In addition, you pay for profit for the insurance companies

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by conanbatt on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @05:01PM (#22059245)

Mostly admin. You could make healthcare a lot cheaper with cheaper doctors though, but its not that great a racket

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by dickjocke on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:01PM (#22057274)

Primary care doc is making 10x 55k? Doubt it's even 5x

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Re:Physician burnout widespread, especially among those midc... by wobbly_bush on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:12PM (#22056699)

Not the person you replied to, but how is that relevant to the discussion?

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