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Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by llampx on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:15PM (#22056050)
If you use the PDF or e-book functionality in Edge, you may want to hold off on upgrading. The PDF scrolling is not as smooth as on the older version.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by spookyuser on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:19PM (#22056800)
I am so sad about the fact that Edge can no longer read epubs and seems to have (so far) sub par pdf reading. It's been my go to pdf reader for a while now and I love the way it scrolls. It is so smooth - just like preview on a mac. I haven't found anything else that comes close to edge for the smoothness of its pdf reading on windows, so I will definitely be holding out on this update for as long as I can. I don't really need two chromium based browsers on my PC anyway.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by scrollaway on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:49PM (#22057126)
Epubs should really be readable by web browsers. They're HTML, essentially.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by endothrowho333 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @07:18PM (#22060381)
Have you found any good ePub reader?

Zathura and Calibre are insanely bloated. FBreader is just no. Emacs works, but has similar functionality to FBreader.

Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by spookyuser on Thursday January 16, 2020 @12:35AM (#22061949)
Yeah it's amazing how incredible Calibre is at organising books but terrible it is at displaying them.

As a matter of fact though, I think I have found a very good epub reader which I don't see mentioned very much called Cover.

It is ridiculously smooth at displaying epubs, maybe even more so than edge. I was reading an epub with tons of images and I could swipe left and right between pages multiple times without waiting a second for reflow, almost felt like swiping a pdf. Whereas on all those other apps the book was blurred and did not scale how I would expect it to, to fill the screen. On cover everything is displayed how I think it should be displayed without changing anything. So yeah, cover A+

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/cover-comic-reader/9wzdncr...

Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by rym_ on Thursday January 16, 2020 @04:43AM (#22063006)
Agreed at Calibre! Ihave the same qualms with EPUBReader in FF, it does not get close to what edge was capable of. I'll take a look at cover at home as I sadly cannot install it at work.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by g_b on Thursday January 16, 2020 @07:03AM (#22063720)
I use Sumatra PDF for PDF/mobi/epub.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by wlesieutre on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:58PM (#22056534)
Extra sad because Microsoft briefly had their own PDF program (Reader) in Windows 8, but removed it in favor of making Edge the default program for opening PDFs.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by progfix on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:08PM (#22056651)
Yeah, it was briefly on Windows 10 as well, it was my favourite PDF reader and now it's gone. Good job Microsoft.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by agumonkey on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:52PM (#22057170)
Imagine if everything that was shelved due to marketing policies were compiled into a disc.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by gpvos on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:09PM (#22057351)
And opensourced.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by olyjohn on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @03:21PM (#22058050)
Microsoft <3 Open Source. I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by balls187 on Thursday January 16, 2020 @12:43AM (#22061979)
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by balls187 on Thursday January 16, 2020 @12:42AM (#22061978)
Are you sure it's gone?

I just checked the Microsoft App Store and Reader is available.

https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9WZDNCRFHWG5

Funny because with Windows Ink, I loved Edge's PDF abilities.

Made my life so much easier.

Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by wlesieutre on Thursday January 16, 2020 @09:44AM (#22064934)
Huh, I'm happy to see it's still available. I sold my Surface years ago and tend to not look at PDFs on Windows anymore, all I'd noticed was that I didn't have Reader installed anymore.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by iotku on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:55PM (#22056480)
Yeah, I threw a sizeable PDF (800MB textbook) at it and it's choking pretty hard compared to old Edge to the point where it's barely usable.

Not a deal breaker for me because I don't have a touch screen and use an external PDF reader (sumatraPDF), but if I was using edge for heavy PDFs I would be rather disappointed

Seems fine for PDFs that are a bit less extreme, but nowhere near as smooth as old edge.

Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by chirau on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:02PM (#22057287)
800MB textbook??? What kind of textbook is that and how many pages does it have? Or page dimension/image resolution??? That is a very very large size for a pdf.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by iotku on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @03:48PM (#22058354)
It's certainly not a typical PDF, but it's 1400 page physics textbook which seem to all be excessively large and unoptimized.

Originally it was completely uncroped, and OCRing it seems to have grown it even larger.

Not too familiar with details with PDFs but I suspect it's just a huge DPI render (maybe designed to go towards being printed) that could probably be reduced significantly if it was designed for normal consumption.

All things considered it's amazing it works at all, but old Edge handled it a lot smoother.

Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by jandrese on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:42PM (#22057046)
That's a problem the Firefox PDF viewer frequently suffers from as well. Give it a big complex PDF and it can choke very hard on stuff that Acrobat reader or xpdf open in under a second.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by dtrailin on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:02PM (#22056574)
I think generally scrolling is less smooth than in the old edge. That was one thing they got right and hopefully we'll see improvements in this area upstream in chromium.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by The_rationalist on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:22PM (#22057501)
They are working on it.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by iamaelephant on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:38PM (#22056274)
None of the touch scrolling or gestures are as smooth as the old Edge, it's a real shame.
Re:The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview by microtheo on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:49PM (#22056407)
You're not wrong, but it is much faster than old edge and just as nicely integrated with touch. I say it's a big upgrade! :)