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Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by Psyladine on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @08:56AM (#22054116)
>I'm curious what this will do to the used car market in 10-15 years.

Depends on LEO. If it is easier to deal with trackable cars, then untrackable cars will be hotter than black tinted windows and radar detectors.

It already is, to some extent; why can I not gut my catalytic converter & change some programming so my car says the outputs are fine? Because the state wants me to get rid of my old functional car to support the economy of newer more expensive vehicles.

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by xg15 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @08:58AM (#22054137)
> why can I not gut my catalytic converter & change some programming so my car says the outputs are fine? Because the state wants me to get rid of my old functional car to support the economy of newer more expensive vehicles.

...also probably to protect the environment?

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by tbihl on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:38AM (#22054470)
You have to have an incredibly inefficient vehicle for manufacturing and shipping a new one to be an environmental positive...
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by freeone3000 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @10:02AM (#22054696)
Catalytic converters reduce local pollution significantly. Smog reduction in major cities is in part due to their near-universality.
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by xg15 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:28PM (#22056894)
But the "manufacturing and shipping a new one" part is temporary until the majority of cars are replaced. The reduced emissions from more efficient cars will be permanent.

Yes, retrofitting would be better, but if that's not possible, what else would you do to get converters into cars?

Also, I think GP was talking about removing a converter from a car that already had one. Literally not doing anything would be better for the environment than that.

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by shadow-banned on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:20AM (#22054316)
tHe sTaTE wAnTs tO cOnTroL me!!!!

modifies car to literally emit noxious emissions everywhere

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by dang on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @10:38AM (#22055138)
Would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to HN?