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Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by i_am_proteus on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @08:51AM (#22054084)
I had a diesel car that I once drove with no alternator and no battery: started off a jump and drove to the auto parts store. Radio, windows, and lights were dead, but the car drove fine.
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by jhoechtl on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:09AM (#22054209)
Fond memories of my Merceded W124. You could rip the engine out of the car and it would go on and on. No electricity for motor management required whatsoever.
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by rrdharan on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:54AM (#22054626)
I think you meant "rip the battery out"?
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by jhoechtl on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @11:23AM (#22055558)
What I meant was the pure engine without any additional managment once running was able to sustain itself.

It's one of the last types of Mercedes which were meant to go through WWIII and back.

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by antsar on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @11:10AM (#22055429)
Either one works, as long as you're going downhill.
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by overcast on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @08:58AM (#22054136)
That's how diesel works, off its own compression.
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by deaps on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:19AM (#22054306)
Yeah - I remember when I was a volunteer firefighter - if you parked a fire truck in an atmosphere that was filled with combustible gasses, the engine would not shut off.

The trucks were equipped with some type of an emergency throw should that situation ever arise. We never had to use it in my time there.

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by tyho on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:35AM (#22054446)
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by i_am_proteus on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @11:45AM (#22055755)
Discharging a CO2 bottle into the air intake is the usual ticket.
Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by ken on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:14PM (#22056730)
Diesels don't require spark, but modern diesels use electronics for fuel injection, fuel pump, drive-by-wire throttle, engine monitoring, and so on.

Since at least the ~2000 era, a VW diesel will run with no alternator (for a while) but not without a battery.

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by aivisol on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @09:58AM (#22054672)
I still own a MB with OM616 [1] engine. It does not need an alternator when it runs. Even to turn fuel supply on/off it uses mechanical valve which is on the dashboard. It turns 40 this year but it starts in a split second even in cold winter.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM616_engine

Re:What kind of data is my new car collecting? by Jamwinner on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @12:14PM (#22056039)
Diesel ignights via compression and does not require external ignition. For this reason, they can 'run away' and rev until they explode if somehow given too much fuel as the result of a failed injector or oil leak from the turbo that feeds the combustion cycle. The yt videos are intense.