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Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by roenxi on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @04:00AM (#22043039)
People can master nearly anything and stand out; boring physical labour is actually one where there are obvious things to be amazing it. It may not earn people a pay raise, but there will be a noticeable and impressive difference between an expert shelf-stacker and someone killing time for money.

That being said there are a lot of jobs where I have difficulty imagining what mastery looks like; say in an automated, low choice style field like bus driving. I couldn't recognise an expert bus driver from a relative novice. But that probably only reflects my lack of knowledge about bus driving.

Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by bykhun on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @06:27AM (#22043795)
I fell in love with driving after that scene in Parasite movie where we takes this very-very smooth turn. I now try to roll my Skoda like it's Mercedes: I stop and start smoothly, I turn wheel so that people don't spoil their imaginative coffee. It makes me feel like I'm guiding a spaceship!
Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by __initbrian__ on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @08:54PM (#22051102)
Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by prometheus76 on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @10:21AM (#22045508)
When I was a young man, I was working at a children's museum, and one of our guests got sick by the front door. I was dispatched to clean it up. While cleaning, (no customers were around at the time), I flippantly said, "Where's the dignity in this?" An elderly woman who was working as a volunteer at the museum overheard me and said, "The only dignity a job has is the dignity you bring to it."
Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by necovek on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @05:10AM (#22043400)
When driving a car, I tend to optimise (my wife would say overoptimise) for everyone's efficiency, and I am sure a lot of that can be applied to bus driving — for instance, many of them will stop too close to a red traffic light, so cars in adjacent lanes can't see them when they are only on the that side of the street.
Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by cm2012 on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @02:02AM (#22052243)
My dad sometimes works as a parking lot manager for a popular field trip location. He says the skill level for school bus drivers is hugely variable. Some smoothly traverse the parking lot, others with the same bus model have a really hard time. Some are appropriately cautious, some do not pay enough attention and are dangerous. Etc.
Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by petra on Tuesday January 14, 2020 @12:46PM (#22047176)
>> People can master nearly anything and stand out;

But a lot of it is just for show. Not really that impact-full on the work done.

People do it because they get a sense of achievement out of it.

But isn't the psychological sense of achievement suppose to be a reward for completing meaningful goals ? Isn't this "empty calories" in a sense ?

Re:Ask HN: What has your work taught you that other people d... by wolrah on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @01:33PM (#22056955)
> That being said there are a lot of jobs where I have difficulty imagining what mastery looks like; say in an automated, low choice style field like bus driving. I couldn't recognise an expert bus driver from a relative novice. But that probably only reflects my lack of knowledge about bus driving.

Look up "Bus Rodeo". It's basically a skills challenge for bus drivers.

You'll see drivers make maneuvers with 60 foot articulated beasts that the average person would have trouble doing in a normal SUV.