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Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by dylan604 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @09:40AM (#22026445)
> Your own trash is very unlikely to end up in the ocean.

Daily, I see people getting rid of the plastic wrapping around their new cigarette pack by throwing it out the car window or just dropping it straight to the ground. It's that type of plastic that makes its way to the city's runoff which makes its way to streams/rivers/lakes/oceans/etc. After any significant amount of rain, there's a few places I can drive by to see where the trash from throughout the city has washed into the grassy areas around bends in creaks/rivers. It's a good visual example of where the plastic pollution is originating.

Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by scottlocklin on Sunday January 12, 2020 @10:10AM (#22026576)
Cellophane is biodegradable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellophane

Most people worry about the wrong thing. If you live in the West, you're not appreciably contributing to ocean plastic pollution (and no, you're almost certainly not doing so by "shipping your garbage to china" either). Smokers, definitely not contributing to plastic pollution.

Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by spodek on Sunday January 12, 2020 @10:40AM (#22026732)
> Smokers, definitely not contributing to plastic pollution

National Geographic and Phys.org report otherwise: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigar... and https://phys.org/news/2019-07-cigarette-butts-forgotten-plas...

Others producing more doesn't reduce their pollution.

Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by scottlocklin on Sunday January 12, 2020 @02:02PM (#22028354)
Cellulose acetate aka cigarette butts, turns into dirt 4 months in the soil or a few years out in the open sunlight[1]. It's vastly more biodegradable than your hoodie, your socks, your Starbucks cup or even something like dried up egg yolk. I don't think people should throw it on the ground, because trash barrels and ash trays are there for a reason, but it's basically not an environmental problem at all. It's just unsightly litter.

> Others producing more doesn't reduce their pollution.

If you actually want to solve environmental problems, how about solving actual problems instead of picking on lower class cigarette smokers who aren't causing any issues? It sure seems like an awful lot of "environmentalism" is nothing more than a disgusting social class pose.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose_acetate

Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by nadezhda18 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:20AM (#22027040)
Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by dylan604 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:01AM (#22026872)
I'm really not so sure cigarette packing is cellophane [0]. Just because something is biodegradable doesn't mean it's cool to just chuck it out the window. While that cellophane is still intact (it's main use is to keep out moisture) is traveling along water ways/drains where it can clog up the works.

[0]https://meshrinkwrap.com/news/cigarette-packaging-explained/

Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by afc on Sunday January 12, 2020 @12:32PM (#22027565)
Strawman. There are many things that, like tossing biodegradable stuff out the window, aren't cool that don't appreciably contribute to ocean plastic pollution.
Re:Ocean cleaning device succeeds in removing plastic for th... by jamil7 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:20AM (#22027041)
How about eating fish?