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Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by distances on Sunday January 12, 2020 @05:26AM (#22025557)
Nokia's woes were on software side, not hardware. Building a competitive software stack proved too slow an undertaking for a hardware company. It was Android in the end that ate Nokia's pie, not Apple.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by coder1001 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @06:24AM (#22025753)
My feeling is that had Apple not released the iPhone, Android would have probably joined the long list of products that Google killed.

It is competition from the iPhone (and the possible control of search traffic on mobile devices that Apple would have) that forced Google to focus on Android after acquiring it and this lead to the demise of Nokia and the mobile division of Microsoft.

I don't know if Nokia knew the marketing budget going towards launching the iPhone along with other resources planned for its launch would that have changed their view on how serious of a competitor the iPhone is going to be.

Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by rapsey on Sunday January 12, 2020 @06:55AM (#22025865)
Apple showed them the way. Before iPhone Android was a nokia knockoff.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by rapsey on Sunday January 12, 2020 @05:45AM (#22025616)
Also they only took Apple seriously way too late.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by coder1001 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @06:26AM (#22025761)
Agree. See my comment above. Having access to info about marketing budget etc. could have possibly changed that.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by BlueTemplar on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:48PM (#22031910)
Which was very foolish of them, considering the success of the iPod !
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by th-miracle-257 on Sunday January 12, 2020 @06:57AM (#22025874)
I think another HW (Semiconductor) company is facing the same problem; its competitor is surging ahead full steam and the future may put the smartphone as one of the inflection points where it all began, connecting the dot backwards of course.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by modo_mario on Sunday January 12, 2020 @08:03AM (#22026103)
They swapped to Android too late but honestly I would have seen them turning it around some. Bringing in Stephen Elop to then have Microsoft strangle em some more to push the winphones was what fucked em up more imo.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by BlueTemplar on Sunday January 12, 2020 @11:51PM (#22031919)
By the time Microsoft bought Nokia, they were already in deep trouble, having lost major parts of the smartphone market.
Re:Tech giants have as much money and influence as nations by modo_mario on Wednesday January 15, 2020 @08:48AM (#22054063)
And they already had Elop as their CEO for a long time and under his guidance started their alignment with Microsoft and had to lay off countless people. Someone who wasn't a trojan horse would have likely acted differently.