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Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by booleanbetrayal on Thursday January 09, 2020 @12:20PM (#22003194)
My neighbor, across the street, has a Ring camera aimed directly at my house, since that is where their front door faces. What is my recourse for preventing my private property from being recorded?
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by hooande on Thursday January 09, 2020 @12:45PM (#22003497)
You have none. a tv crew could set up outside your house and record indefinitely. or even go through your trash. People are allowed to record public spaces. It's just bad behavior and the consequences are social
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by ChuckNorris89 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @01:07PM (#22003719)
Sounds super illegal and not GDPR compliant. You're not allowed to tape my private property without my consent. At least in Europe.
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by jahlove on Thursday January 09, 2020 @03:12PM (#22005126)
OP lives in the US.
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by AWildC182 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @01:43PM (#22004105)
Find a 5mw near-infrared laser and aim it at the camera across the street
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by sp332 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @03:08PM (#22005077)
Seems like overkill, and potentially harmful (if someone gets their eye in the way of the beam, or even a pretty good reflection of the beam).
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by jethro_tell on Thursday January 09, 2020 @12:54PM (#22003595)
grow trees? not really much else and it kinda sucks. The same goes for cameras in businesses, you walk into a coffee shop and they have 15 cameras, and all the transactions are cc so there's like nothing to steal? But it's pervasive, everywhere has cameras and it's just a thing that happened without much thought. Most of them are being uploaded these days too.
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by forkerenok on Thursday January 09, 2020 @12:41PM (#22003457)
There was a post about WiFi deauth attack against Ring devices:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21889837

Disclaimer: This is not an invitation to do such a thing. Be mindful of laws in your jurisdiction and ethics of this.

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by ChuckNorris89 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @12:59PM (#22003639)
Where do you live? In some European countries you need a license for surveillance cameras as in you're not allowed to record public spaces, only your private property must be in frame and for this you need a license. Otherwise you face significant fines.

GDPR is on your side here as well. I had to consent to the surveillance cameras when I joined my local gym.

Also at our workplace we had to consent to being taped by the main entry surveillance cameras and the company is not allowed to view the footage, like for performance reviews :), unless a theft or crime has occured.

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by dmitrygr on Thursday January 09, 2020 @02:35PM (#22004690)
Personally, i'd use one of these https://www.wickedlasers.com/arctic to resolve the issue

aim well

:)

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by rb808 on Thursday January 09, 2020 @01:46PM (#22004146)
Depends on your location. NY has some laws now. As expected Europe is strict, here is UK guidance. https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-g...
Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by JohnFen on Thursday January 09, 2020 @01:34PM (#22004013)
> What is my recourse for preventing my private property from being recorded?

Either put up a visual barrier or move.

This sort of thing is why I consider products like Ring to be terrible and highly antisocial. I would avoid even going into a neighborhood that had many of these installed, let alone live in one.

Also, am I the only one who thinks that the prevalence of these devices in a neighborhood is a very strong indicator that the neighborhood is sketchy -- either it has a lot of crime, or it has a lot of very paranoid people.

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by Kocrachon on Thursday January 09, 2020 @03:35PM (#22005391)
What's the big deal if it's ring, or me with a bunch of chinese-made POE cameras and blue iris as a local server? shouldn't people have the right to set up surveillance on their own house for protection and deterrence?

saying people are paranoid for having cameras is ridiculous, people also have security systems. It's a deterrent and doesn't necessarily mean high crime. if you live in Major City like I have my whole life, it's just a fact of life that you're going to want stuff like this.

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by JohnFen on Thursday January 09, 2020 @03:56PM (#22005634)
> What's the big deal if it's ring, or me with a bunch of chinese-made POE cameras and blue iris as a local server?

If it's just you with a local server, then I only have to worry about you. If it's going to someone else's server, then I have to worry about them as well. And in the case of Ring specifically, that someone else is Amazon -- which is even more concerning.

> shouldn't people have the right to set up surveillance on their own house for protection and deterrence?

Sure, I never said otherwise. I have a surveillance system myself (on my own local servers), but I take great pains to ensure that no cameras are capturing anything that isn't my property.

> It's a deterrent and doesn't necessarily mean high crime.

I never said that it automatically means a high crime area. It's just highly suggestive of it. If it's a low crime area, far fewer people would feel the need for this sort of thing.

> if you live in Major City like I have my whole life, it's just a fact of life that you're going to want stuff like this.

No, it's not. I've lived in a number of major cities, and have never felt the need to point cameras at my neighbor's houses or the street.

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by awinter-py on Thursday January 09, 2020 @01:43PM (#22004113)
https://shop.ring.com/pages/privacy

> At the core of Ring, and guiding every action we take, is respect for the privacy and security of our neighbors

> Nobody can view your video recordings unless you allow it

Sounds pretty straightforward.

Send Ring's legal dept a letter telling them you don't allow it ([email protected], then certified mail when they ignore you the first time).

Re:Ring fired employees for watching customer videos by godshatter on Thursday January 09, 2020 @06:19PM (#22006937)
Put up a fence.