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Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by seanmcdirmid on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:08PM (#21976741)
It’s the difference between reading text on a piece of paper printed via a modern laser printer and an old fashioned dot matrix one. They are both readable, but one looks much better than the other. You change test this by printing out a screenshot of a PDF vs. printing the PDF out directly.

And yes, I use matte filters on my high DPI screens, especially my iPad.

Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by zozbot234 on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:20PM (#21976796)
And an offset-printed book page will look "much better" than even the laser-printed one, but do people really care at that point? That's pretty much the same as complaining that a 4K resolution is too pixely.
Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by seanmcdirmid on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:26PM (#21976830)
4K is too pixels if the screen is large enough. I had a Hitachi 28” 4K before I upgraded to an iMac 27” 5k. The text on the hitachi looked like crap, you could see the pixel corners and sub pixel anti aliasing coloring bleed through 10, 12, and larger fonts (that is on Windows, on a Mac you would see lots of blurriness via font smoothing).

Aesthetics matter, for a few hundred dollars more, it feels like I’m almost looking at paper (if it weren’t for the backlighting).

Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by Dylan16807 on Monday January 06, 2020 @11:53PM (#21976979)
At 32 inches you're only getting 138 DPI. Much like a 17 inch 1080p screen, it's acceptable but it could be a lot clearer.

The standard from decades ago is 96. Just wanting to double that, to make the pixels not blatant, is not extravagant.

Ignore the raw resolution here. Talk about DPI.

Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by bavell on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @01:47AM (#21977603)
DPI is only half of the picture though (forgive the pun). Viewing distance is the other half, your eyes can't tell the difference between 100 DPI and 300 DPI if you're far enough away.
Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @08:19AM (#21979632)
So what, do you read books ten feet away to reduce eye strain?

A modern desk gives you about two feet between you and your monitor, which isn’t overly close, and you’ll still very much notice the difference between 138 and 220 DPI.

Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by bavell on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @08:10PM (#21987215)
Only for my 150" books ;)

I sit 3ft away from my monitors, at that distance I can't notice a difference.

Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by m0zg on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @03:28AM (#21978105)
Bingo. And it's less stressful for the eyes to focus on an object that's further away. Net result: I might actually have some vision left over by the time I retire. Worth the cost.
Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by Dylan16807 on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @10:54AM (#21981106)
Yeah but we're talking about computer screens, not televisions. The viewing distance is around 20-30 inches and 100DPI definitely does not cut it at that distance.
Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by bavell on Tuesday January 07, 2020 @08:16PM (#21987247)
You're not wrong but at around 30" is where is starts not to matter (for 1440p anyway) and I happen to sit ~36" away from my monitors. See [0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21977571

Re:AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs by Dylan16807 on Wednesday January 08, 2020 @05:59AM (#21990295)
'Retina' is just one metric. When it comes to crisp edges, there's still a difference up to 5 or 10 times the PPI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacuity_(scientific_term)