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Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by johnchristopher on Monday January 06, 2020 @05:44PM (#21974322)
Do you think end-users products from corporation style farms are cheaper than family farm (for equivalent quality) ?
Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by AngryData on Monday January 06, 2020 @08:05PM (#21975599)
Cheaper, yes, but currently corporate agriculture is less sustainable as they make little to no efforts in maintaining or building the top soil depth, and instead reap the soil for marginal yield gains and then buy out the small 75+ year well tended farm and do it all over again. Eventually having decent farm land is going to cost a premium and food price will rise because of it. Short term gains for long term costs.
Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by jjoonathan on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:30PM (#21976200)
Uhh... I worked in an adjacent industry for a while and multiple interactions with big players and small players left me the distinct impression that it was the other way around. Little players just kept doing what they did the year before because it "worked," no matter how sub-optimal, no matter how long-term detrimental, while big players hired agricultural scientists that actually knew how to measure, optimize, and spend money on costly upkeep with an expected long-term payoff.
Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by F_J_H on Monday January 06, 2020 @08:50PM (#21975905)
>>currently corporate agriculture is less sustainable as they make little to no efforts in maintaining or building the top soil depth

How did you come to this conclusion? I'm close the industry, and in my experience, corporate farms spend a great deal of effort maintaining soil, which includes using drones to visually inspect crops to see where soil may be lacking certain nutrients based on foliage color analysis.

Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by war1025 on Monday January 06, 2020 @10:16PM (#21976474)
> Eventually having decent farm land is going to cost a premium and food price will rise because of it.

I believe prime tillable land in Iowa currently goes for something like $10k/acre. That's not really in the realm of "cheap" when you need 100s of acres to be profitable in today's farm economy.

Further, the agricultural colleges in the Midwest have extension offices specifically devoted to spreading best practices regarding sustainability and soil health.

Healthy soil is productive soil. There's a reason yields keep going up, and its not just down to plant breeding.

Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by oh_sigh on Monday January 06, 2020 @08:38PM (#21975832)
Industrial agriculture would still be cheaper than bespoke farming even if they were good stewards of their soil, if only because of economies of scale.
Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by aaronax on Monday January 06, 2020 @09:16PM (#21976101)
Perhaps the older generation is actually less sustainable. I recall a friend telling me how frustrating it was to be back farming with his dad because his dad insisted on tilling up the field every spring instead of using no-till methods.
Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by satya71 on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:56PM (#21975001)
The quality from the corporate farm is probably worse. But the buyer is a distributor that doesn't really care about quality. Corporation can use financial engineering, economies of scale, and low pay to make profit from an otherwise unprofitable farm. Sometimes they can strong-arm modestly profitable farms into a sale.
Re:For tech-weary Midwest farmers, 40-year-old tractors now ... by stjohnswarts on Monday January 06, 2020 @07:01PM (#21975041)
Initially yes, but through consolidation they will form 2 or 3 huge megacorps that control our food supply. It won't be pretty.