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Re:Let me give you a list of the top scams coding bootcamps ... by andrewstuart on Monday January 06, 2020 @01:46PM (#21971803)
>> but professionals, they are not

This is exactly correct. And if you're interviewing juniors/graduates trying to find "professionals" then you really don't understand hiring.

"We're looking for professionals with no commercial experience." It's a contradiction in terms.

Re:Let me give you a list of the top scams coding bootcamps ... by rglullis on Monday January 06, 2020 @01:59PM (#21971952)
BS.

For a corporate setting that may have the resources to hire people for the potential and long term maintenance of their cogs, sure, hire "recent graduates" with zero ability to produce any value to the company.

But don't tell me that you can't find young people with little to no experience that are talented enough to run circles on any "experienced professional" and actually be useful from the start. I've done it myself more than once.

Re:Let me give you a list of the top scams coding bootcamps ... by whiddershins on Monday January 06, 2020 @01:57PM (#21971916)
So you want to pay someone to train them.
Re:Let me give you a list of the top scams coding bootcamps ... by pmiller2 on Monday January 06, 2020 @03:10PM (#21972727)
Why not? That's how it used to work. Provided they can demonstrate a minimum of CS fundamentals, things like tools (git, ssh, etc.), how to work with a large code base, good style, and any number of things that a new grad needs to know to become a competent junior engineer can be taught.
Re:Let me give you a list of the top scams coding bootcamps ... by OGWhales on Monday January 06, 2020 @04:34PM (#21973596)
I think this is exactly what the original comment was taking issue with for the bootcampers.

>but as soon as you threw any real world problem that required any deviation from their established lane they completely floundered

He quoted it himself, but failed to notice the issue. I myself have noticed people who went through 4 year programs tend to be much more adaptable as the universities tend to do a better job of building a solid foundation.