News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:How strong is your knot? by dgzl on Thursday January 02, 2020 @09:36PM (#21942554)
I can think of at least one situation where an overhand knot is better than a figure-eight, where speed and ease is more important than strength.
Re:How strong is your knot? by dragontamer on Thursday January 02, 2020 @10:16PM (#21942775)
Figure Eight knot is tied almost identically to an overhand knot, except you "turn left" instead of "turning right" into the loop. Under no circumstances is a figure eight knot harder to tie than an overhand knot.

https://www.101knots.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/How-to-T...

In fact, I've practiced the figure 8 knot so much, that it takes more effort for me to do an overhand knot these days. Figure 8 is really easy.

Just as the "Granny Knot" is a mistaken square knot / reef knot... the "Overhand Knot" is basically a mistaken figure-8 knot. Just turn the other way, and the knot will be far, far stronger.

Re:How strong is your knot? by dgzl on Friday January 03, 2020 @02:01AM (#21943891)
Forgive me, I thought we were talking about with the follow-through. In this case, I guess it's just as easy if you practice, which most people don't. People do practice the overhand knot though.

So, an overhand knot is likely easier for most people, where a figure-eight would be better for those who practice.

Re:How strong is your knot? by JshWright on Thursday January 02, 2020 @10:19PM (#21942795)
They're pretty identical in terms of ease of tying, it's just one extra flick of your wrist before you pass the working end back through.

I think the difference in speed would be measured in milliseconds. You'd need a slow-motion camera to spot see any difference at all.

Re:How strong is your knot? by nicwolff on Thursday January 02, 2020 @11:35PM (#21943201)
The double overhand knot is better than a figure-eight when used as a stop-knot at the end of a rope that you want to prevent running out through a block or clutch, because it's easier to untie after being jammed.